From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265785AbUEZUJk (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 May 2004 16:09:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265786AbUEZUJk (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 May 2004 16:09:40 -0400 Received: from grunt21.ihug.com.au ([203.109.249.141]:64153 "EHLO grunt21.ihug.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265785AbUEZUJh (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 May 2004 16:09:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: drivers DB and id/ info registration] From: Zenaan Harkness To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org In-Reply-To: <20040526195505.GB2588@kroah.com> References: <1085548092.2909.60.camel@zen8100a.freedbms.net> <20040526182919.GA25978@kroah.com> <1085600051.2468.17.camel@zen8100a.freedbms.net> <20040526195505.GB2588@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1085602088.2466.24.camel@zen8100a.freedbms.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 06:08:08 +1000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 05:55, Greg KH wrote: > Remember, an id by itself is pointless. We need specs and drivers that > work for those specs. You should concentrate on that goal instead of > worrying about ids. Of course there would be provision for "submit willing to code", "submit specs" etc - a support- and interest- garnering site. > > Perhaps users can submit some, and surely at least _some_ companies, > > and/ or their employees, will do so too. > > > > Still pointless? > > As we are going to rip the pci.ids file out of the 2.7 kernel tree, > pretty much so :) Hmm, I guess lkml is going to be pretty well kernel-centric. Are you saying "it'll be ripped out and discarded forever" or "ripped out and placed in userspace where it always shoulda been"? I'm still not convinced that having comprehensive device recognition is pointless (but I'm not trying to push something that excludes drivers here either ...). ta zen