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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Tim Fairchild <tim@bcs4me.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Sid Boyce <sboyce@blueyonder.co.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NVIDIA Driver 1.0-6111 fix
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 13:04:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1094385894.1078.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1094332949.6575.360.camel@krustophenia.net>

On Sad, 2004-09-04 at 22:22, Lee Revell wrote:
> I have never understood why these people don't just run Windows.  I have
> also never understood why people make so much noise about having to use
> a closed source driver to play A CLOSED SOURCE GAME!  What's next, a
> petition to open the UT2004 source?  Sheesh...

Because a lot of them happen to like running things on Linux, or having
the webserver still work while they are blasting aliens. You could ask a
few of them. Thats a rather good idea when you don't understand why
people do something. They also play a lot of open source games - bzflag,
cube, flightgear (which does need a high end video card to do well),
gl-117, neverball etc. Take a look at the happypenguin website some day.

> I suspect many of these users are ricers who tweak CFLAGS and compare
> benchmark scores all day, and cannot bear to use the open source driver
> if it will make their machine 1% slower.  I was surprised to find that

There is certainly a strong Gentoo gaming contingent.

> apparently there are open source ATI 3D drivers after all but some
> people are petitioning ATI anyway because these 'aren't as good' as the
> binary ones.  So fix it already, this is open source, and if you can't,
> then please learn to write code or STFU.

The source code ones only go for R2xx series, not R300/R400. A browse of
the documentation would have told you that. Whether this will change
nobody knows. Perhaps as R3xx ceases to be leading edge ATI will be nice
to us. 

Alan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-05 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-04  0:17 Sid Boyce
2004-09-04  6:28 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-09-04  9:25 ` Dominik Karall
2004-09-04  9:32   ` Sid Boyce
2004-09-04  9:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04  9:54   ` Tim Fairchild
2004-09-04  9:58     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 19:56     ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 21:02       ` Tim Fairchild
2004-09-04 21:22         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 22:09           ` Tim Fairchild
2004-09-05  1:12           ` [OT] " Christian Kujau
2004-09-05  1:52             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-05  2:03           ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-05  3:32             ` [OT] " Lee Revell
2004-09-05  5:29               ` Tim Fairchild
2004-09-05  5:57                 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-05 23:20             ` J.A. Magallon
2004-09-06  0:23               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-06 20:54             ` Alessandro Sappia
2004-09-05 12:03           ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-09-05 12:04           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2004-09-05 13:39             ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-09-05 14:37               ` Sid Boyce
2004-09-05 23:29             ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-04 21:22       ` Dominik Karall
2004-09-04 21:25         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 23:44       ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-05  6:27         ` Sid Boyce

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