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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Al Borchers <alborchers@steinerpoint.com>
Cc: linux-usb-devel <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: new locking in change_termios breaks USB serial drivers
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:49:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1096645773.21958.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <415D84A3.6010105@steinerpoint.com>

On Gwe, 2004-10-01 at 17:24, Al Borchers wrote:
> Its a design decision for the tty layer.  You should choose whatever is
> best there and the drivers will have to adapt.

>From a tty layer I don't think there is a motivation to enforce no
sleep. Hopefully nobody has a reason to need to fiddle with termios
data in their IRQ handlers ?

> To correctly support TCSETAW/TCSETSW the USB serial drivers would have to
> have two different versions of set_termios--a non sleeping one to be called

Providing the driver isnt sticking its nose into ->ioctl the tty layer
core already correctly handles TCSETAW for you because it uses
tty_wait_until_sent before issuing the change. You don't have to deal
with that providing you've implemented driver->chars_in_buffer, and
if neccessary ->wait_until_sent.

In a waiting case the driver will get

	->chars_in_buffer
		until it returns zero
	->wait_until_sent
	->change_termios

which serializes with respect to the one writer. If you have a writer
during a termios change by another well tough luck, you lose and I've
no intention of changing that behaviour unless someone cites a standard
requiring it.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-01 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-01 10:40 Al Borchers
2004-10-01 11:36 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 16:24   ` Al Borchers
2004-10-01 15:49     ` Alan Cox [this message]
2004-10-01 18:14       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Al Borchers
2004-10-02 15:08         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-02 17:19           ` Al Borchers
2004-10-01 20:15     ` Stuart MacDonald
2004-10-01 17:42   ` Greg KH

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