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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Separate IRQ-stacks from 4K-stacks option
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:55:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1098294932.1429.153.camel@krustophenia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4176A749.8050306@techsource.com>

On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 13:58, Timothy Miller wrote:
> Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 11:35, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > 
> >>On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 11:46:32AM -0400, Timothy Miller wrote:
> >>
> >>>The rules about how long a hard irq would be allowed to run would have 
> >>>to be draconian.
> >>
> >>they already are.
> > 
> > 
> > The IDE I/O completion in hardirq context means that one can run for
> > almost 3ms.  Apparently at OLS it was decided that the target for
> > desktop responsiveness was 1ms.  So this is a real problem.
> 
> What is happening that takes 3ms, and why can't it be broken up?
> 

http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/7/24/26

> Are you talking here about PIO?  Is there a limited amount of time you 
> have to do the PIO before the data goes away?  It may be acceptable to 
> just live with PIO being slow, since high-performance systems will all 
> be using DMA anyhow.
> 

Nope, DMA.

> > 
> > What exactly do you mean by "draconian"?
> 
> In this case, I mean extremely harsh and restrictive.  Usually, it means 
> "excessively harsh", but in this case, I mean that in a good way.  :)
> 

Heh, I know what the word means, I was asking what the specific rules
are that could be considered as such.

Lee


  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-20 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-09 23:25 Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-09 23:55 ` Brian Gerst
2004-09-09 23:59   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  6:45   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  6:52     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  7:15       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  7:21         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  7:23           ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  7:35             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  9:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10  9:14   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 10:27     ` Russell King
2004-09-10 14:30     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-10 15:06       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10 15:07       ` Hugh Dickins
2004-09-10 15:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 15:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10 15:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-10 15:09             ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 15:34             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-12 14:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 15:03                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-12 15:45                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 16:00                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-20 16:27                     ` Lee Revell
2004-10-21 15:18                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 19:18               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-12 19:25                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 19:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 19:40                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 19:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 20:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 21:36                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-12 22:07                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 22:25                           ` Lee Revell
2004-09-13  6:16                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-13  7:27                               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 19:43                               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-15 19:51                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 20:00                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 20:39                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:50                               ` Timothy Miller
2004-09-13  7:32                             ` Jens Axboe
2004-09-13 10:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-13 10:34                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-13 12:30                                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-10-20 17:46                             ` Timothy Miller
2004-09-13 10:51                         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-13 20:26                 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-14  5:20                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 15:46               ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 15:35                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-20 16:39                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 16:50                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 16:55                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:08                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 17:15                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:34                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 17:58                     ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 17:55                       ` Lee Revell [this message]
2004-10-20 18:25                         ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 18:28                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 18:51                     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-20 23:19                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-10 15:16         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-20 15:43         ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 15:35           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10 15:58       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-10 16:19         ` Nathan Bryant
2004-09-10 17:54           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-10 17:54       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-10  9:27 ` Alan Cox

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