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Subject: Re: [PATCH] oom killer (Core)
From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
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On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 21:11 +0100, Andre Tomt wrote:
> Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 11:22 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>You can issue sysrq commands over serial consoles too.
> > 
> > I know, but the console and the reset button are 150km away. When I dial
> > into the machine or try to connect via the network, I cannot connect
> > with the current kernels. Neither 2.4, because the fork fails, nor 2.6
> > because oom killed sshd. So I cannot send anything except a service man,
> > who drives 150km to hit sysrq-F or the reset button.
> 
> Get one of those terminal server/concentrators that export the serial 
> consoles over IP. Or one of those KVM-over-IP extenders. Worth every penny.

Makes totally sense. 

I add 1000$ equipment to a 300$ embedded box because there is a software
bug.

Is it possible that we are living in a different universe ?

tglx