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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	axboe@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Time sliced CFQ io scheduler
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 14:02:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1102474971.8095.51.camel@npiggin-nld.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041208025127.GL16322@dualathlon.random>

On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 03:51 +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 01:33:33PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > I think we could detect when a disk asks for more than, say, 4
> > concurrent requests, and in that case turn off read anticipation
> > and all the anti-starvation for TCQ by default (with the option
> > to force it back on).
> 
> What do you mean with "disk asks for more than 4 concurrent requests?"
> You mean checking the TCQ capability of the hardware storage?
> 

Yeah. Just check if there are more than 4 outstanding requests at once.

> > I think this would be a decent "it works" solution that would make
> > AS acceptable as a default.
> 
> Perhaps the code would be the same but if you disable it completely on
> certain hardware that's not AS anymore...
> 

Which is what we want on those system ;)

> Then I believe it would be better to switch to cfq for storage capable
> of more than 4 concurrent tagged queued requests instead of sticking
> with a "disabled AS". What's the point of AS if the features of AS are
> disabled?
> 

For everyone else, who do want the AS features (ie. not databases).

> One relevant feature of cfq is the fairness property of pid against pid
> or user against user. You don't get that fairness with the other I/O
> schedulers. It was designed for fairness since the first place. Fariness
> of writes against writes and reads against reads and write against reads
> and read against writes.

That is something, I'll grant you that.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-08  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-02 13:04 Jens Axboe
2004-12-02 13:48 ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-02 19:48   ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-02 19:52     ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-02 20:19       ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-02 20:19         ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-02 20:34           ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-02 20:37             ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-07 23:11               ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-02 22:18         ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-12-03  7:01           ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-03  9:12             ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-12-03  9:18               ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-03  9:35                 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-12-03  9:43                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-03  9:26               ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-03  9:34                 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-12-03  9:39                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-03  9:54                   ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
     [not found]                   ` <41B03722.5090001@gmx.de>
2004-12-03 10:31                     ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-03 10:38                       ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-03 10:45                         ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-12-03 10:48                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-03 11:27                             ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-12-03 11:29                               ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-03 11:52                                 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-12-08  0:37       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-08  0:54         ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-08  1:37           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-08  1:47             ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-08  2:09               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-08  2:11                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-08  2:22                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-08  6:52               ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  2:00             ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-08  2:08               ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-08  6:55                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  2:20               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-08  2:25                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-08  2:33                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-08  2:33                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-08  2:51                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-08  3:02                       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-12-08  6:58                     ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  7:14                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-08  7:20                         ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  7:29                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-08  7:32                             ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  7:30                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-08  7:36                             ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08 13:48                         ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  6:55               ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  7:08                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-08  7:11                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  7:19                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-08  7:26                       ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  9:35                         ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08 10:08                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08 12:47                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08 10:52                 ` Helge Hafting
2004-12-08 10:49                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-08  6:49           ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-02 14:28 ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-12-02 14:41   ` Jens Axboe
2004-12-04 13:05     ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-12-03 20:52 Chuck Ebbert

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