From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de, george anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
albert@users.sourceforge.net, Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
linux@dominikbrodowski.de, David Mosberger <davidm@hpl.hp.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
paulus@samba.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
keith maanthey <kmannth@us.ibm.com>, greg kh <greg@kroah.com>,
Patricia Gaughen <gone@us.ibm.com>,
Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>, Max <amax@us.ibm.com>,
mahuja@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] New timeofday proposal (v.A1)
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 16:17:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1102551441.1281.286.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412081548010.4783@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 15:53, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, john stultz wrote:
> > However, there is also this short term single shot adjustments. These
> > adjustments are made by applying the MAX_SINGLESHOT_ADJ (500ppm) scaling
> > for an amount of time (offset_len) which would compensate for the
> > offset. This style is difficult because we cannot precompute it and
> > apply it to an entire tick. Instead it needs to be applied for just a
> > specific amount of time which may be only a fraction of a tick. When we
> > start talking about systems with irregular tick frequency (via
> > virtualization, or tickless systems) it becomes even more problematic.
>
> We would need to schedule a special tick like event at a certain time but
> otherwise I do not see a problem. Is there a requirement that these
> "specific amounts of time" are less than 1 ms? The timer hardware (such as
> the RTC clock) can generate an event in <200ns that could be used to
> change the scaling. For a tickless system we would need to have such
> scheduled events anyways.
Eh, I'd like to not to be dependent on event accuracy/frequency. Lets
see if we can do it w/o scheduling events.
> > If this can be fudged then it becomes less of an issue. Or at worse, we
> > have to do two mult/shift operations on two "parts" of the time interval
> > using different adjustments.
>
> That looks troublesome. Better avoid that.
Well, its not *that* bad. Similar to the ntp_scale() function, it would
look something like:
if (interval <= offset_len)
return (interval * singleshot_mult)>>shift;
else {
cycle_t v1,v2;
v1 = (offset_len * singleshot_mult)>>shift;
v2 = (interval-offset_len)*adjusted_mult)>>shift;
return v1+v2;
}
Where:
singleshot_mult = original_mult + ntp_adj + ss_mult
and
adjusted_mult = original_mult + ntp_adj
> > Its starting to look doable, but its not necessarily the simplest thing
> > (for me at least). I'll put it on my list, but patches would be more
> > then welcome.
>
> I am still suffering from my limited NTP knowlege but will see what I can
> do about this.
:) Any added NTP knowledge would be great to add to the pool.
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-09 0:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-08 1:55 john stultz
2004-12-08 1:56 ` [RFC] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A1) john stultz
2004-12-08 1:57 ` [RFC] new timeofday arch specific hooks (v.A1) john stultz
2004-12-08 1:58 ` [RFC] new timeofday timesources (v.A1) john stultz
2004-12-08 2:02 ` john stultz
2004-12-08 9:17 ` [RFC] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A1) Pavel Machek
2004-12-08 18:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-12-08 19:22 ` john stultz
2004-12-08 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-12-08 20:27 ` Martin Waitz
[not found] ` <1102555933.1281.301.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com>
2004-12-09 7:32 ` Martin Waitz
2004-12-08 18:25 ` [RFC] New timeofday proposal (v.A1) Christoph Lameter
2004-12-08 19:11 ` john stultz
2004-12-08 19:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-12-08 19:58 ` john stultz
2004-12-08 20:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-12-08 21:25 ` George Anzinger
2004-12-08 23:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-12-08 23:36 ` john stultz
2004-12-08 23:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-12-09 0:17 ` john stultz [this message]
2004-12-09 0:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-12-09 0:51 ` john stultz
2004-12-09 1:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-12-09 7:57 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-12-09 8:29 ` john stultz
2004-12-09 7:47 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-12-08 18:43 ` Nicolas Pitre
2004-12-08 18:57 ` john stultz
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