From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261905AbUL0PdB (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:33:01 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261908AbUL0PdB (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:33:01 -0500 Received: from clock-tower.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:43931 "EHLO localhost.localdomain") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261905AbUL0Pcu (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:32:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.10-ac1 From: Alan Cox To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz Cc: Andreas Steinmetz , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <58cb370e041226174019e75e23@mail.gmail.com> References: <1104103881.16545.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <58cb370e04122616577e1bd33@mail.gmail.com> <41CF649E.20409@domdv.de> <58cb370e041226174019e75e23@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1104157732.20952.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:28:53 +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Llu, 2004-12-27 at 01:40, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > Do you want to force people to disable the io-apic just because of > > option removal? In my case the serialized devices are a disk and a > > dvd-rw which is rarely used, so disabling the io-apic is a bad solution. > > No, I want them to fix the problem - whenever it is - ide or apic code. :) Or hardware, or SMM .... There are some very complex obscure platform specific funnies that end up solved by serialize that I doubt anyone will get to the bottom of before all the worlds parallel ATA drives have turned to rust (and/or sand). It seems the gnome desktop disease[1] is spreading to some kernel people. It's all init code, its cheap and it works. Making it automated in more cases is great, but you'll never stamp out the need for the manual one even if its to do the debug to get the automated case right. Alan [1] Removing configuration features people need before (if ever) providing a working alternative that is automatic.