From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Olaf Kirch <okir@suse.de>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
Nathan Scott <nathans@sgi.com>,
Mike Waychison <Michael.Waychison@sun.com>,
Jesper Juhl <juhl-lkml@dif.dk>,
Felipe Alfaro Solana <lkml@mac.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Buck Huppmann <buchk@pobox.com>,
Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>,
"Andries E. Brouwer" <Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Tim Hockin <thockin@hockin.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/13] Qsort
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:49:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1106682566.9607.73.camel@winden.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1106681637.11449.101.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 20:33, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> ty den 25.01.2005 Klokka 19:12 (+0100) skreiv Andreas Gruenbacher:
>
> > Ah, I see now what you mean. The setxattr syscall only accepts
> > well-formed acls (that is, sorted plus a few other restrictions), and
> > user-space is expected to take care of that. In turn, getxattr returns
> > only well-formed acls. We could lift that guarantee specifically for
> > nfs, but I don't think it would be a good idea.
>
> Note that if you really want to add a qsort to the kernel you might as
> well drop the setxattr sorting requirement too. If the kernel can qsort
> for getxattr, then might as well do it for the case of setxattr too.
There is no need to sort anything in the kernel for acls except for the
NFSACL case, so that's where we need it, and nowhere else. What would be
the point in making setxattr accept unsorted acls? It's just not
necessary; userspace can do it just as well.
> > Entry order in POSIX acls doesn't convey a meaning by the way.
>
> Precisely. Are there really any existing programs out there that are
> using the raw xattr output and making assumptions about entry order?
I don't know. Anyway, it's a nice feature to have a unique canonical
form.
> > The server must have sorted lists.
>
> So, I realize that the on-disk format is already defined, but looking at
> routines like posix_acl_permission(), it looks like the only order the
> kernel (at least) actually cares about is that of the "e_tag" field.
> Unless I missed something, nothing there cares about the order of the
> "e_id" fields.
Correct. But posix_acl_valid() does care about the i_id order as well.
> Given that you only have 6 possible values there, it seems a shame in
> hindsight that we didn't choose to just use a 6 bucket hashtable (the
> value of e_id being the hash value), and leave the order of the e_id
> fields undefined. 8-(
Checking for duplicate e_id fields would become expensive. I really
don't see any benefit.
Cheers,
--
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
SUSE Labs, SUSE LINUX GMBH
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-25 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-22 20:34 [patch 0/13] NFSACL protocol extension for NFSv3 Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 1/13] Qsort Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 21:00 ` vlobanov
2005-01-23 2:03 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-23 2:39 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-23 3:02 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-01-23 4:46 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-23 5:05 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-01-23 10:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-01-24 4:29 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-24 15:45 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-24 17:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-25 0:43 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-25 4:06 ` Eric St-Laurent
2005-01-24 22:04 ` Mike Waychison
2005-01-25 6:51 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-25 10:12 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-25 12:00 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-25 12:05 ` Olaf Kirch
2005-01-25 16:52 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-01-25 16:53 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-25 17:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-01-25 17:16 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-25 17:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-01-25 18:12 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-25 19:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-01-25 19:49 ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
2005-01-23 4:29 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-24 0:21 ` Nathan Scott
2005-01-24 2:57 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-24 4:02 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-24 21:57 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-23 4:58 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-24 21:20 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-24 21:50 ` vlobanov
2005-01-23 4:22 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-23 5:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-23 21:24 ` Richard Henderson
[not found] ` <1106431568.4153.154.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-01-22 22:10 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 23:28 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-23 0:21 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-23 5:08 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-23 5:32 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-23 12:22 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-23 16:49 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-24 3:48 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-24 20:15 ` [PATCH] lib/qsort Matt Mackall
2005-01-24 23:09 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-24 23:30 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-25 4:11 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 2/13] Return -ENOSYS for RPC programs that are unavailable Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-15 17:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-16 15:32 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 3/13] Add missing -EOPNOTSUPP => NFS3ERR_NOTSUPP mapping in nfsd Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 4/13] Allow multiple programs to listen on the same port Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 5/13] Allow multiple programs to share the same transport Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 6/13] Lazy RPC receive buffer allocation Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 7/13] Encode and decode arbitrary XDR arrays Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-15 19:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-16 16:08 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-17 14:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 8/13] Add noacl nfs mount option Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-15 17:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-16 16:10 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 9/13] Infrastructure and server side of nfsacl Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 10/13] Solaris nfsacl workaround Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-15 17:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-15 20:35 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-15 22:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-15 23:02 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-15 23:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-15 23:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-16 16:17 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-16 17:05 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-16 17:39 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 11/13] Client side of nfsacl Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-15 17:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-22 13:41 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-22 14:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 12/13] ACL umask handling workaround in nfs client Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-25 1:20 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-15 18:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-02-22 16:47 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-02-22 17:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-01-22 20:34 ` [patch 13/13] Cache acls on the nfs client side Andreas Gruenbacher
2005-01-24 0:28 [patch 1/13] Qsort James Lamanna
2005-01-24 3:44 Charles R Harris
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