From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Cc: Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Filesystem Development <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-aio@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add support for semaphore-like structure with support for asynchronous I/O
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:56:35 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1112637395.10602.95.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050404162216.GA18469@kvack.org>
må den 04.04.2005 Klokka 12:22 (-0400) skreiv Benjamin LaHaise:
> > Your approach looks reasonable and simple enough. It'd be useful if I
> > could visualize the caller side of things as in the NFS client stream
> > as you mention - do you plan to post that soon ?
> > I'm tempted to think about the possibility of using your iosems
> > with retry-based AIO.
>
> I'm not sure I see the point in adding yet another type of lock to the
> kernel that has different infrastructure. This will end up with much
> more code changing to adapt to the new iosems, rather than just using a
> new primative on the existing semaphores.
The point is to avoid having to develop and test 23 different and highly
arch-dependent (and hence non-maintainable) versions of the same code.
In particular note that many of those architectures appear to be heavily
over-optimized to directly inline assembly code as well as to use
non-standard calling conventions. They all also manage somehow to differ
w.r.t. spinlocking conventions and even w.r.t. the internal structures
and algorithms used.
IOW: the current semaphore implementations really all need to die, and
be replaced by a single generic version to which it is actually
practical to add new functionality.
Failing that, it is _much_ easier to convert the generic code that needs
to support aio to use a new locking implementation and then test that.
It is not as if conversion to aio won't involve changes to the code in
the area surrounding those locks anyway.
Cheers,
Trond
--
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-04 18:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-30 21:51 Trond Myklebust
2005-03-30 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-30 23:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-03-30 23:44 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-31 0:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-03-31 22:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-01 0:13 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-01 1:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-01 14:12 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
[not found] ` <20050404155245.GA4659@in.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20050404162216.GA18469@kvack.org>
2005-04-04 17:56 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2005-04-05 15:46 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-04-06 1:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-06 5:17 ` Bill Huey
2005-04-06 5:01 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-04-07 11:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-08 22:39 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-04-08 23:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-10 14:08 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-04-15 16:13 ` David Howells
2005-04-15 22:42 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-15 23:42 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-04-16 11:12 ` David Howells
2005-04-16 11:06 ` David Howells
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