From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru
Cc: Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>,
Guillaume Thouvenin <guillaume.thouvenin@bull.net>,
greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:41:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1112870517.3279.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112867556.28858.135.camel@uganda>
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 13:52 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:12 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 12:13 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > > The main idea was to simplify userspace control and notification
> > > system - so people did not waste it's time learning how skb's are
> > > allocated
> > > and processed, how socket layer is designed and what all those
> > > netlink_* and NLMSG* mean if they do not need it.
> >
> > Isn't connector built on top of netlink? If so, is there any reason for
> > it to be a new subsystem rather than an extension the the netlink API?
>
> Connector is not netlink API extension in any way.
> It uses netlink as transport layer, one can change
> cn_netlink_send()/cn_input()
> into something like bidirectional ioctl and use it.
>
> Only one cn_netlink_send() function can be "described" as API
> extension,
> although even it is not entirely true.
I see much overlap here too. Wouldn't it be nice to see the transport
part of the connector code to be implemented as a generic netlink
multicast? We already have uni- and broadcast for netlink.
Isn't the whole purpose of the connector to hook in notifications that
act only if someone is listening? That is a perfect multicast case. :)
At the time we added kobject_uevent I was missing something like this.
The broadcast groups did not really fit, and we decided not to use them,
and unicast wasn't a option here.
Thanks,
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-07 10:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1112859412.18360.31.camel@frecb000711.frec.bull.fr>
2005-04-07 7:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 7:58 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07 8:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 8:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07 10:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 2:59 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 3:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 3:32 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 3:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 3:50 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 4:02 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 4:02 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 4:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 4:17 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 4:23 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08 4:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 4:53 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 4:55 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08 5:11 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 5:08 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 5:19 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 6:02 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08 13:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-08 6:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 4:22 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-07 8:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 9:12 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-07 9:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 10:41 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2005-04-07 11:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 14:23 ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-07 14:49 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 15:47 ` James Morris
2005-04-08 3:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 5:55 ` James Morris
2005-04-08 6:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 9:52 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-10 10:32 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 11:08 ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-10 11:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 11:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 12:10 ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-10 12:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 14:39 ` jamal
2005-04-10 14:56 ` James Morris
2005-04-10 15:08 ` jamal
2005-04-10 19:27 ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-11 5:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-11 10:45 ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-11 11:19 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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