From: Kylene Jo Hall <kjhall@us.ibm.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add TPM hardware enablement driver
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:07:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1112990855.4573.4.camel@dyn95395164> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112717690.7713.23.camel@jo.austin.ibm.com>
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:14 -0500, Kylene Jo Hall wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 13:33 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 04:04:25PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > > Greg KH wrote:
> > > >On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:02:24PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>Kylene Hall wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>>what is the purpose of this pci_dev_get/put? attempting to prevent
> > > >>>>hotplug or
> > > >>>>something?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Seems that since there is a refernce to the device in the chip structure
> > > >>>and I am making the file private data pointer point to that chip
> > > >>>structure this is another reference that must be accounted for. If you
> > > >>>remove it with it open and attempt read or write bad things will happen.
> > > >>>This isn't really hotpluggable either as the TPM is on the motherboard.
> > > >>
> > > >>My point was that there will always be a reference -anyway-, AFAICS.
> > > >>There is a pci_dev reference assigned to the pci_driver when the PCI
> > > >>driver is loaded, and all uses by the TPM generic code of this pointer
> > > >>are -inside- the pci_driver's pci_dev object lifetime.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Think of the following situation:
> > > > - driver is bound to device.
> > > > - userspace opens char dev node.
> > > > - device is removed from the system (using fakephp I can do this
> > > > to _any_ pci device, even if it is on the motherboard.)
> > > > - userspace writes to char dev node
> > > > - driver attempts to access pci device structure that is no
> > > > longer present in memory.
> > > >
> > > >Because of this open needs to get a reference to the pci device to
> > > >prevent oopses, or the driver needs to be aware of "device is now gone"
> > > >in some other manner.
> > >
> > > Thanks for explaining; agreed.
> > >
> > > However, there appear to still be massive bugs in this area:
> > >
> > > Consider the behavior of the chrdev if a PCI device has been
> > > unplugged. It's still actively messing with the non-existent
> > > hardware, and never checks for dead h/w AFAICS.
> >
> > I agree, the driver should be fixed to handle this properly.
> >
>
Basically, what I need to figure out is how to solve both issues
simultaneously. I need to not register a pci_driver as I would be
taking over an ID that is not unique to my device as well as get the
hotplugging correct (which i don't know how to do with out a pci_remove
function).
Thanks,
> I have now played with the fakephp driver and have a better
> understanding of these interactions, but I still have questions. With
> the current structure there is a problem because everything is
> "cleaned-up" with the tpm_remove function even if userspace has the
> device open when the tpm's slot is removed and then there are problems
> on subsequent reads/writes. The get/put didn't really stop this from
> happening. Is it right to fix this by cleaning mostly up and placing a
> flag in the read/write path to check for this condition?
>
> This problem actually becomes more complicated. Since the TPM lives on
> the LPC bus and does not have it's own id we were in the process of
> converting the driver to not use a pci_driver structure at all like the
> example in drivers/char/watchdog/i8xx_tco.c. This is desirable so that
> the driver does not claim the id and other drivers can still find their
> devices that also live on the LPC bus and thus share the same ID.
> Without a pci_driver structure there is no probe or remove functions and
> thus the driver is not alerted of the loss of hardware. Any
> recommendations of how to handle this situation?
>
> Thanks,
> Kylie
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-08 20:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-10 0:41 [BK PATCH] Add TPM driver support for 2.6.11 Greg KH
2005-03-10 0:42 ` [PATCH] Add TPM hardware enablement driver Greg KH
2005-03-10 0:42 ` [PATCH] tpm: fix cause of SMP stack traces Greg KH
2005-03-10 0:42 ` [PATCH] tpm_msc-build-fix Greg KH
2005-03-10 0:42 ` [PATCH] tpm_atmel build fix Greg KH
2005-03-10 0:42 ` [PATCH] tpm-build-fix Greg KH
2005-03-10 3:51 ` [PATCH] Add TPM hardware enablement driver Jeff Garzik
2005-03-15 23:59 ` Kylene Jo Hall
2005-03-17 0:32 ` Kylene Hall
2005-03-23 2:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 6:39 ` Greg KH
2005-03-24 21:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 21:33 ` Greg KH
2005-04-05 16:14 ` Kylene Jo Hall
2005-04-08 20:07 ` Kylene Jo Hall [this message]
2005-04-09 8:31 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-27 22:15 ` [PATCH: 1 of 12] Fix concerns with TPM driver -- use enums Kylene Hall
2005-04-27 22:23 ` Greg KH
2005-04-27 22:15 ` [PATCH: 2 of 12 ] Fix TPM driver -- address missing const defs Kylene Hall
2005-04-27 22:16 ` [PATCH: 3 of 12] Fix TPM driver --remove unnecessary module stuff Kylene Hall
2005-04-27 22:16 ` [PATCH 4 of 12] Fix TPM driver -- read return code issue Kylene Hall
2005-04-27 22:16 ` [PATCH 5 of 12] Fix TPM driver -- large stack objects Kylene Hall
2005-04-27 22:18 ` [PATCH 6 of 12] Fix TPM driver -- how timer is initialized Kylene Hall
2005-04-27 22:18 ` [PATCH 7 of 12] Fix TPM driver -- use to_pci_dev Kylene Hall
2005-03-10 17:35 ` [PATCH] Add TPM hardware enablement driver Nish Aravamudan
2005-03-10 18:19 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-03-10 19:09 ` [PATCH] char/tpm: use msleep(), clean-up timers, fix typo Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-03-10 21:04 ` [PATCH] Add TPM hardware enablement driver Alexey Dobriyan
2005-04-27 22:18 ` [PATCH 9 of 12] Fix TPM driver -- remove unnecessary __force Kylene Hall
2005-03-11 18:18 ` [PATCH] char/tpm: use msleep(), clean-up timers, fix typo Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-04-15 20:23 ` Kylene Hall
2005-04-15 20:44 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-04-15 21:04 ` Greg KH
2005-04-15 21:47 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-04-15 21:47 ` Nish Aravamudan
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