From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261342AbVDMOD6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:03:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261347AbVDMOD6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:03:58 -0400 Received: from [193.112.238.6] ([193.112.238.6]:40322 "EHLO caveman.xisl.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261342AbVDMODz (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:03:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Exploit in 2.6 kernels From: John M Collins To: Lennart Sorensen Cc: Lars Marowsky-Bree , Helge Hafting , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20050413132308.GP17865@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1113298455.16274.72.camel@caveman.xisl.com> <425BBDF9.9020903@ev-en.org> <1113318034.3105.46.camel@caveman.xisl.com> <20050412210857.GT11199@shell0.pdx.osdl.net> <1113341579.3105.63.camel@caveman.xisl.com> <425CEAC2.1050306@aitel.hist.no> <20050413125921.GN17865@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <20050413130646.GF32354@marowsky-bree.de> <20050413132308.GP17865@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Xi Software Ltd Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:01:46 +0100 Message-Id: <1113400906.10763.20.camel@caveman.xisl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1-1mdk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 09:23 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Graphics card companies don't realize they are hardware companies not > software companies and that it is hardware they make their money from? > Oh and they have too many lawyers? > > It seems to me that 2D graphics are a done deal, with no new inovation > taking place. Releasing programing specs for that part should be a no > brainer. If the nifty 3D routines are so important to keep secret from > the other guys then well keep those. Release the 2D programing specs! Where I am (in the UK) you more or less have to buy computers in bits and put them together if you want (like I do) to shuffle bits of hardware between different machines to suit varying needs or bolt on extra bits and pieces of new hardware and above all not pay M$ tax. The nvidia card seems the only one with reasonable performance at a reasonable price that fits on most motherboards that I can find.in these parts. > m-a is module-assistant which is used on debian to build a module If I ask nicely can I download it from anywhere? I've just finished building 2.6.11.7 and it might be nice to try it. Could I possibly make a suggestion for "make xconfig" in the kernel tree (and make other-kinds-of-config I suppose)? I currently routinely copy the ".config" out of the previous kernel tree before I start to save working through questions about sound cards I never heard of and so forth. Could it perhaps optionally initialise most of the settings to fit the current machine and/or grab the last lot of settings from /proc/config.gz? John Collins Xi Software Ltd www.xisl.com Tel: +44 (0)1707 886110 (Direct) +44 (0)7799 113162 (Mobile)