From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: dino@in.ibm.com, Simon.Derr@bull.net,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, colpatch@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Dynamic sched domains aka Isolated cpusets
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:57:20 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1113897440.5074.62.camel@npiggin-nld.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050419001926.605a6b59.pj@sgi.com>
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 00:19 -0700, Paul Jackson wrote:
> Nick wrote:
> > It doesn't work if you have *most* jobs bound to either
> > {0, 1, 2, 3} or {4, 5, 6, 7} but one which should be allowed
> > to use any CPU from 0-7.
>
> How bad does it not work?
>
> My understanding is that Dinakar's patch did _not_ drive tasks out of
> larger cpusets that included two or more of what he called isolated
> cpusets, I call cpuset domains.
>
> For example:
>
> System starts up with 8 CPUs and all tasks (except for
> a few kernel per-cpu daemons) in the root cpuset, able
> to run on CPUs 0-7.
>
> Two cpusets, Alpha and Beta are created, where Alpha
> has CPUs 0-3, and Beta has CPUs 4-7.
>
> Anytime someone logs in, their login shell and all
> they run from it are placed in one of Alpha or Beta.
> The main spawning daemons, such as inetd and cron,
> are placed in one of Alpha or Beta.
>
> Only a few daemons that don't do much are left in the
> root cpuset, able to run across 0-7.
>
> If we tried to partition the sched domains with Alpha and Beta as
> separate domains, what kind of pain do these few daemons in
> the root cpuset, on CPUs 0-7, cause?
>
They don't cause any pain for the scheduler. They will be *in* some
pain because they can't escape from the domain in which they have been
placed (unless you do a set_cpus_allowed thingy).
So, eg. inetd might start up a million blahd servers, but they'll
all be stuck in Alpha even if Beta is completely idle.
> If the pain is too intolerable, then I'd guess not only do we have to
> purge any cpusets superior to the ones determining the domain
> partitioning of _all_ tasks, but we'd also have to invent yet one more
> boolean flag attribute for any such superior cpusets, to mark them as
> _not_ able to allow a task to be attached to them. And we'd have to
> refine the hotplug co-existance logic in cpusets, which currently bumps
> a task up to its parent cpuset when all the cpus in its current cpuset
> are hot unplugged, to also rebuild the sched domains to some legal
> configuration, if the parent cpuset was not allowed to have any tasks
> attached.
>
> I'd rather not go there, unless push comes to shove. How hard are
> you pushing?
>
Well the scheduler simply can't handle it, so it is not so much a
matter of pushing - you simply can't use partitioned domains and
meaningfully have a cpuset above them.
--
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-19 7:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-07 0:51 [RFC PATCH] scheduler: Dynamic sched_domains Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07 2:13 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-07 17:01 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-08 5:55 ` [Lse-tech] " Takayoshi Kochi
2004-10-08 6:08 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-08 16:43 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-07 21:58 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 0:22 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-07 22:20 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07 4:12 ` [ckrm-tech] " Marc E. Fiuczynski
2004-10-07 5:35 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-07 22:06 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07 9:32 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-08 10:14 ` [Lse-tech] " Erich Focht
2004-10-08 10:40 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-08 15:50 ` [ckrm-tech] " Hubertus Franke
2004-10-08 22:48 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 18:54 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 21:56 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-08 22:52 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 23:13 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-08 23:50 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-10 12:25 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-08 22:51 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-09 1:05 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-10 12:45 ` Erich Focht
2004-10-12 22:45 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 18:45 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-04-18 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH] Dynamic sched domains aka Isolated cpusets Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-18 23:44 ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-19 8:00 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-19 5:54 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19 6:19 ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-19 6:59 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19 7:09 ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-19 7:25 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19 7:28 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19 7:19 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19 7:57 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-04-19 20:34 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-23 23:26 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-26 0:52 ` Matthew Dobson
2005-04-26 0:59 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19 9:52 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-19 15:26 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-20 7:37 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-19 20:42 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19 8:12 ` Simon Derr
2005-04-19 16:19 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19 9:34 ` [Lse-tech] " Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-19 17:23 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-20 7:16 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-20 19:09 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-21 16:27 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-22 21:26 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-23 7:24 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-23 22:30 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-25 11:53 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-25 14:38 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-21 17:31 ` [RFC PATCH] Dynamic sched domains aka Isolated cpusets (v0.2) Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-22 18:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-22 21:37 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-23 3:11 ` Paul Jackson
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