From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261486AbVFAR43 (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:56:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261482AbVFARyl (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:54:41 -0400 Received: from 213-239-205-147.clients.your-server.de ([213.239.205.147]:30414 "EHLO mail.tglx.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261486AbVFARwy (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:52:54 -0400 Subject: Re: RT patch acceptance From: Thomas Gleixner Reply-To: tglx@linutronix.de To: Andrea Arcangeli Cc: Karim Yaghmour , Esben Nielsen , Ingo Molnar , Paulo Marques , "Paul E. McKenney" , James Bruce , Nick Piggin , "Bill Huey (hui)" , Andi Kleen , Sven-Thorsten Dietrich , dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20050601153803.GO5413@g5.random> References: <20050601143202.GI5413@g5.random> <20050601150527.GL5413@g5.random> <429DD533.6080407@opersys.com> <20050601153803.GO5413@g5.random> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: linutronix Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:53:11 +0200 Message-Id: <1117648391.20785.7.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 17:38 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 11:33:07AM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > > in a wider context of all the other statements within that claim, the main > > part being what I quoted earlier. > > Ok great, I trust your patent knowledge given your background ;). > > It's very reassuring that I was wrong and preempt-rt is not covered by > the patent. Until now I really understood that redefining an hard irq > disable to a soft irq disable was forbidden at large. Thank god thats not the case. We did a patent research on this last year and the result was that you can replace the cli/sti by a software flag in the OS itself without violating the patent. The combination of replacing it in the host OS and running said host OS as an idle task of the underlying RTOS would violate the patent. So if PREEMPT-RT would use a soft cli/sti emulation, no problem should arise. tglx