From: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] ndevfs - a "nano" devfs
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:55:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1119650122l.7970l.0l@werewolf.able.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050624190513.GA1046@mikebell.org> (from mike@mikebell.org on Fri Jun 24 21:05:15 2005)
On 06.24, Mike Bell wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 01:18:08AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > Anyway, here's yet-another-ramfs-based filesystem, ndevfs. It's a very
> > tiny:
> ...
> > replacement for devfs for those embedded users who just can't live
> > without the damm thing. It doesn't allow subdirectories, and only uses
> > LSB compliant names. But it works, and should be enough for people to
> > use, if they just can't wean themselves off of the idea of an in-kernel
> > fs to provide device nodes.
>
> As far as ideas go, this is pretty much all I asked for. A simple kernel
> filesystem to export device nodes with names, rather than just the
> numbers as sysfs does. The "detecting non-existant device names" thing
> never meant anything to me personally, and if anyone does care this
> gives them a simple place to add such a hook - unlike device names I
> don't see why such a thing would be difficult to maintain as a patch.
>
I had always asked for the simpler and minimal /dev to let a system boot
and reach udev start, and I think this is even better !!
>
> What's the method for bootstrapping this filesystem onto a system? Is
> a mount from early userspace the only way you'd accept, or would a
> kernel parameter to automount over /dev as devfs does be tolerable?
>
I got sad when I read I did not support directories and so on, because
that meant I could not run udev on it, but I have thought
on an alernative for early userspace:
- mount ndevfs on /mnt
- cp -a /mnt /dev
- umount /mnt
- let init run /etc/rc.d/rc till it gets to mount /dev and start udev
Just a question (kinda newbie's question):
Does ndevfs to be mounted when a device is detected ? Or will it show
all the registered devices when mounted ?
TIA
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-24 22:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-24 8:18 Greg KH
2005-06-24 12:23 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-24 15:16 ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 15:40 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-24 16:26 ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 14:32 ` Bill Gatliff
2005-06-24 15:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-24 15:20 ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 17:10 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-24 17:10 ` Bill Gatliff
2005-06-28 7:40 ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 19:05 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-24 21:55 ` J.A. Magallon [this message]
2005-06-24 19:22 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2005-06-25 0:57 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-25 7:37 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-28 7:41 ` Greg KH
2005-06-28 19:56 ` Tom Rini
2005-06-28 21:08 ` Olaf Hering
2005-06-28 21:25 ` Tom Rini
2005-06-28 22:08 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-06-28 22:23 ` Tom Rini
2005-06-25 22:15 ` Matt Mackall
2005-06-25 23:43 ` Greg KH
2005-06-26 8:23 ` Russell King
2005-06-28 3:36 ` Greg KH
2005-06-27 7:19 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-27 22:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-27 23:26 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 7:40 ` Greg KH
2005-06-28 9:08 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 9:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-28 9:40 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 21:49 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-28 22:23 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 23:43 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-29 0:12 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-29 0:39 ` David Lang
2005-06-29 0:53 ` Mike Bell
2005-06-28 12:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-28 20:08 ` Greg KH
2005-06-29 6:41 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-29 16:06 ` Greg KH
2005-06-29 16:22 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <200506270819.20108.arnd@arndb.de>
2005-06-28 3:46 ` Greg KH
[not found] <OF831AC472.851744FE-ON8025702A.004A57EC-8025702A.004B5AE9@sophos.com>
2005-06-24 15:23 ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 15:32 tvrtko.ursulin
2005-06-24 16:27 ` Greg KH
2005-06-27 15:21 Adam J. Richter
2005-06-27 23:27 ` J.A. Magallon
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