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From: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	arjan@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	frankvm@frankvm.com
Subject: Re: FUSE merging?
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:07:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1120223248.23346.23.camel@imp.csi.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1120222434.23346.16.camel@imp.csi.cam.ac.uk>

On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 13:53 +0100, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 04:29 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Sorry, but I'm not buying it.  I still don't see a solid reason why all
> > this could not be done with nfs/v9fs, some kernel tweaks and the rest in
> > userspace.  It would take some effort, but that effort would end up
> > strengthening existing kernel capabilities rather than adding brand new
> > things, which is good.
> 
> FUSE is a generic FS API which is _very_ easy to write an FS for
> (learning curve is about 10-15 minutes starting after you have unpacked
> the fuse source code, at least it took me that long to start writing an
> FS based on the example one provided).  NFS is not anything like that.
> 
> Also can the NFS approach provide me with different content depending on
> the uid of the accessing process?  With FUSE that is easy as pie.  Even
> easier than that actually...

I forgot:  And doesn't NFS require stable inode numbers and other
"invariables" like that for it to work?  FUSE doesn't and those
requirements are a real PITA in a lot of cases where there simply are no
inodes and the numbers are synthetic and change on each remount or even
on each access after the dentry has expired...

And I always thought that doing FS in userspace via NFS is considered an
ugly hack.  I didn't have the impression that that had changed recently.
(-;

Best regards,

        Anton
-- 
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
Unix Support, Computing Service, University of Cambridge, CB2 3QH, UK
Linux NTFS maintainer / IRC: #ntfs on irc.freenode.net
WWW: http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/ & http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/


  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-01 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-30  9:19 Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30  9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-30  9:51   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 10:00     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-30 10:12       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 10:20         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-30 10:24           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 19:39             ` Avuton Olrich
2005-07-01  6:23               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 11:13           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-06-30 19:46             ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-30 20:00               ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01  6:40                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 22:28               ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01  6:58                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  9:24                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 10:27                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 12:00                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 12:36                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 13:05                           ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:21                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 15:20                               ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 17:04                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 18:04                                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 19:35                                     ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2005-07-02 14:49                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 16:00                                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03  6:16                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 11:25                                           ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 13:24                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 13:50                                               ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 14:03                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 14:10                                               ` FUSE merging? (2) Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 15:47                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 19:36                                                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-04  8:56                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04  9:59                                                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-04 10:27                                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04 11:26                                                           ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01  6:36               ` FUSE merging? Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  6:50                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01  7:07                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  7:14                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01  7:27                       ` Miles Bader
2005-07-01  7:38                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  8:02                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 10:11                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 11:29                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 12:00                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 12:53                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-07-01 13:07                                 ` Anton Altaparmakov [this message]
2005-07-01 13:51                                 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:29                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 16:45                               ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-01 12:08                             ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:21                             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 13:53                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 14:18                                 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 14:31                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 10:01                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-02 14:58                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 16:43                                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-02 17:33                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-03 19:39                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-04  8:38                             ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                               ` <20050704084900.GG15370@elf.ucw.cz>
2005-07-04  9:02                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04 10:46                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-01 12:37                   ` bert hubert
2005-07-01  7:46                 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2005-07-01  9:47                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  9:36                 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 10:45                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 11:34                     ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-06-30 10:16       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 16:30         ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-02 22:02 Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-02 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-03  0:34   ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-09-03  5:31   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03  6:40     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-03  7:23       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03 13:29     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-09-03 14:20       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03 15:01         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-09-03 15:38           ` Miklos Szeredi

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