From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932122AbVH3OHx (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:07:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932123AbVH3OHx (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:07:53 -0400 Received: from clock-tower.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:40090 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932122AbVH3OHx (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:07:53 -0400 Subject: Re: KLive: Linux Kernel Live Usage Monitor From: Alan Cox To: Sven Ladegast Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <20050830030959.GC8515@g5.random> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:36:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1125412611.8276.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Maw, 2005-08-30 at 10:01 +0200, Sven Ladegast wrote: > The idea isn't bad but lots of people could think that this is some kind > of home-phoning or spy software. I guess lots of people would turn this > feature off...and of course you can't enable it by default. But combined > with an automatic oops/panic/bug-report this would be _very_ useful I think. Wrong way around - you need to let people turn it on. Perhaps distribute it with the kernel so you can make register [Reports hardware, stashed a unique sha-1 hashed cookie] [Asks for permission, installs UDP ping daemon] make unregister but it would have to be opt in. That might lower coverage but should increase quality, especially id the id in the cookie can be put into bugzilla reports, and the hardware reporting is done so it can be machine processed (ie so you can ask stuff like 'reliability with Nvidia IDE') Alan