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From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>
To: Andreas Hartmann <andihartmann@01019freenet.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: forbid to strace a program
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:36:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1125912965.27110.34.camel@tara.firmix.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfe7ui$14q$1@pD9F874C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de>

On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:32 +0200, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Chase Venters wrote:
[...]
> > 
> > Can I ask why you want to hide the database password from root?
> 
> It's easy: for security reasons. There could always be some bugs in some
> software, which makes it possible for some other user, to gain root
> privileges. Now, they could easily strace for information, they shouldn't

Forget it.
You cannot hide anything seriously from root (or equivalent users on
other OSes and so-called OSes) with such attempts (independent how the
process got root - with the correct password or through a security hole
somewhere).
Consider the case that root installed a (patched) DB-server which dumps
the passwords in some logfile. Or root logs from the authentication
framework (be it PAM or something else)

> could do it. The password they could see, isn't just used for the DB, but
> for some other applications, too. That's the disadvantage of general
> (single sign on) passwords.

So either you get your own machine or you use different passwords for
different services.

	Bernd
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-05  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2005-09-04  7:32       ` Andreas Hartmann
2005-09-04  8:45         ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-04  8:47         ` Tejun Heo
2005-09-05  9:36         ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
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2005-09-03 22:23   ` Andreas Hartmann
2005-09-03 22:34     ` Chase Venters
2005-09-04 21:47     ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-03 11:28 Andreas Hartmann
2005-09-03 20:29 ` Alex Riesen

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