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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>,
	gregkh@suse.de,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add kernel<->userspace ABI stability documentation
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:27:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1141198077.3866.5.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060301002302.GF23716@kroah.com>

On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 16:23 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:39:29PM +0300, Nikita Danilov wrote:
> > Greg KH writes:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> >  > +
> >  > +  stable/
> >  > +	This directory documents the interfaces that have determined to
> >  > +	be stable.  Userspace programs are free to use these interfaces
> >  > +	with no restrictions, and backward compatibility for them will
> >  > +	be guaranteed for at least 2 years.  Most simple interfaces
> >  > +	(like syscalls) are expected to never change and always be
> >  > +	available.
> > 
> > What about separating "stable" ("guaranteed for at least 2 years") and
> > "standard" (core unix interface is not going to change ever)?
> 
> Why?  Would that mean that the POSIX-like syscalls would only be in
> "standard"?  What else would you think would be in that category?

that sounds wrong. If you want posix behavior, use glibc. Not the kernel
directly. It's that simple. The kernel tends to follow posix mostly, to
allow glibc to do this job without too much hoops, but it's glibc that
provides the final posix API to the application. And it should be that
way.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-01  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-27 19:01 Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 19:11   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:17     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 19:22 ` Kumar Gala
2006-02-27 19:30   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-27 19:44   ` Greg KH
2006-03-01 13:53     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-03-01 14:10       ` Gabor Gombas
2006-03-01 14:35         ` Jes Sorensen
2006-03-01 16:30         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-02-27 20:06   ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-27 19:35 ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-27 19:49   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:57     ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-27 20:00       ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:13         ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-28  0:26           ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:36 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-27 19:46   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:01     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-27 20:13       ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:22         ` John W. Linville
2006-02-27 22:00           ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:10     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 22:58       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-27 20:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-27 21:04       ` Al Viro
2006-02-27 23:33         ` Nicholas Miell
2006-02-27 23:45       ` Greg KH
2006-02-28  1:52         ` Jason Lunz
2006-02-28  6:32         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-28  6:41           ` Dave Jones
2006-03-01  0:34           ` Greg KH
2006-03-01  1:17             ` Nicholas Miell
2006-03-02  4:24               ` Greg KH
2006-03-05 16:17                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-05 23:23                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-06  0:12                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-06  0:39                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-06  2:15                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-07  3:56                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:52 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-02-27 19:57   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:05     ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-02-27 20:12       ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:15         ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 22:56           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-28  0:11             ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:01 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-01  0:21   ` Greg KH
2006-02-28 11:39 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-03-01  0:23   ` Greg KH
2006-03-01  7:27     ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2006-03-01 20:56       ` Greg KH
2006-03-07 14:44 Al Boldi
2006-03-07 15:21 ` Josh Boyer

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