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From: "James C. Georgas" <jgeorgas@rogers.com>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] make UNIX a bool
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:59:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1141689554.19207.35.camel@Rainsong.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6D8D14D2-4ED3-46ED-8FB9-FF8567DC9F70@mac.com>

Excuse me - sent half a response earlier.

On Sat, 2006-04-03 at 17:57 -0500, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2006, at 16:31:51, James C. Georgas wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-02-03 at 23:32 -0500, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> >> af_unix (IE: CONFIG_UNIX) currently uses the symbol  
> >> get_max_files.  It is the only module that uses that symbol, and  
> >> that symbol probably should not be exported as it's kind of an  
> >> internal API.  Therefore if we mandate that CONFIG_UNIX != m, then  
> >> that symbol may be properly unexported and made private, because  
> >> nothing modular would use it.  Does that clear things up?
> >
> > Yes, I think I understand.
> >
> > However, even if you don't export the symbol, I don't see how you  
> > can make it private (i.e. static declaration) to file_table.c,  
> > since it has to remain extern, in order to be visible to af_unix.c.
> 
> You're missing some crucial information about how Linux operates.   
> EXPORT_SYMBOL != extern.  Basically, Linux maintains a list of  
> symbols that dynamically loaded modules are allowed to use, along  
> with some technical usage restrictions on each  (Symbols exported  
> with EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL may only be used by modules that declare  
> 'MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");'.)  Exporting a symbol increases the  
> likliehood that some module author will use it inappropriately, and  
> bloats the kernel.  In this case, removing the EXPORT_SYMBOL() would  
> be a good thing.


Isn't it kind of pointless to not EXPORT a symbol if the symbol is still
declared globally in an include/linux/ header file? If the intent is to
prevent abuse of the symbol, then this doesn't do it, because I can just
statically compile my module into the kernel, and keep on using that
symbol.

It makes sense to me to remove the EXPORT of get_max_files only if the
intent is to eventually remove the get_max_files function from
include/linux/fs.h.

This would require that af_unix.c calculate the maximum number of
allowed open Unix sockets from information other than the
files_stat.max_files value is fs/file_table.c.

If that's the intent, then there's no point in disallowing AF_UNIX=m.
Doing this just so one can unEXPORT a symbol only fixes half the issue.

> Cheers,
> Kyle Moffett
> 
-- 
James C. Georgas <jgeorgas@rogers.com>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-07  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-03  4:06 [Fwd: Re: [2.6 patch] make UNIX a bool] James C. Georgas
2006-03-03  4:14 ` [2.6 patch] make UNIX a bool James C. Georgas
2006-03-03  4:32   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-03 21:31     ` James C. Georgas
2006-03-04 22:57       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-06 23:42         ` James C. Georgas
2006-03-06 23:59         ` James C. Georgas [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-25 16:01 Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 17:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-02-25 17:28   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-26 18:19   ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-25 22:46 ` Olaf Hering
2006-03-25 19:47   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-26 15:20     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-03-26 21:48       ` Joshua Hudson
2006-02-27 22:18 ` James C. Georgas
2006-02-27 22:29   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-01  3:09     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-03-01 17:58       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-02  1:31         ` Herbert Xu
2006-03-02 17:38           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-02 19:51             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-03-02 20:39               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-02 20:51                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-03-02 21:28                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-03  9:27                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-03-02 20:28             ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-02 20:32               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-02 20:40                 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-02 21:40                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-02 21:53                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-02 22:32                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-02 21:46                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-03  9:30                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-03-03  4:28                 ` James C. Georgas
     [not found]                 ` <1141335521.3582.14.camel@Rainsong.home>
     [not found]                   ` <20060302214423.GI9295@stusta.de>
2006-03-03  4:44                     ` James C. Georgas
2006-03-03 11:46                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-03 14:48                         ` James C. Georgas
2006-03-03 15:10                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-03 17:50                             ` James C. Georgas
2006-03-03 17:55                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-03 21:11                                 ` James C. Georgas
2006-03-02 20:34               ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-02-28 14:52   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-02-28 15:30     ` James C. Georgas
2006-02-28 19:15     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-02 21:47     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-17 15:41 [PATCH 0/2] RCU updates Dipankar Sarma
2006-02-17 15:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] rcu batch tuning Dipankar Sarma
2006-02-17 15:46   ` [PATCH 2/2] fix file counting Dipankar Sarma
2006-02-18  9:04     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-18  9:25       ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-02-18 12:14         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-18 12:31           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-20 22:36             ` [2.6 patch] make UNIX a bool Adrian Bunk

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