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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Benjamin Bach <benjamin@overtag.dk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Idea: Automatic binary driver compiling system
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:11:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1142698292.2889.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <441C2CF6.1050607@overtag.dk>

On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 16:53 +0100, Benjamin Bach wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > there are over a thousand open source drivers, and at most a handful
> > binary ones. Please go do your math.
> >   
> You're doing the wrong comparison. How many drivers are missing

not too many. This is largely because hardware interfaces are getting
increasingly standardized (it's cheaper for the hw vendors to not have
to create a new driver for Windows XP)

>  or
> lacking in ability?

some. But the vast majority is "good enough" by any standard.

>  And if you add to your handful of binary drivers
> those thousands that exist for xp...

then it's clear that linux is better off ;)
(and yes while XP has more drivers, in linux a driver would generally
drive the hardware that in the windows world uses 10 to 20  drivers)

> well, numbers do change. Also, most open source drivers aren't made by
> the vendors themselves.

and? For standard interfaces... no big deal.
And for non-standard interfaces.. it's increasingly done with the vendor
help

> 
> We're doing subjective math here. It doesn't change the fact that Linux
> would be better off with improved hardware support, right?

yes. But "more binary drivers" is absolutely not "better off"; but
that's going towards the usual bimonthly troll topic so lets not go
there and stop here.



  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-18 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-17 18:00 Benjamin Bach
2006-03-17 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-17 18:35 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-18 15:03   ` Benjamin Bach
2006-03-18 15:10     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-18 15:53       ` Benjamin Bach
2006-03-18 16:11         ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2006-03-19 10:47           ` Benjamin Bach
2006-03-19 11:54             ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-19 15:19             ` Bob Copeland
2006-03-19 16:12               ` Benjamin Bach
2006-03-20 11:43                 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-03-20 15:46                 ` Bob Copeland
2006-03-21 23:02                   ` Lee Revell
2006-03-22 21:51                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-18 16:12         ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-18 16:51         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-19 16:30     ` Sander
2006-03-19 18:02   ` Nix

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