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From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: cmm@us.ibm.com
Cc: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: ext3_ordered_writepage() questions
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:05:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1142874353.3414.18.camel@orbit.scot.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1142637789.4802.34.camel@dyn9047017067.beaverton.ibm.com>

Hi,

On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 15:23 -0800, Mingming Cao wrote:

> > > There is one other perspective to be aware of, though: the current
> > > behaviour means that by default ext3 generally starts flushing pending
> > > writeback data within 5 seconds of a write.  Without that, we may end up
> > > accumulating a lot more dirty data in memory, shifting the task of write
> > > throttling from the filesystem to the VM.  

> Current data=writeback mode already behaves like this, so the VM
> subsystem should be tested for a certain extent, isn't?

Yes, but there are repeated reports that for many workloads,
data=writeback is actually slower than data=ordered.  So there are
probably some interactions like this which may be hurting us already.

--Stephen



  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-20 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-08  0:19 [RFC PATCH 0/3] VFS changes to collapse all the vectored and AIO support Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-08  0:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] Vectorize aio_read/aio_write methods Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-08 12:44   ` christoph
2006-03-08  0:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] Remove readv/writev methods and use aio_read/aio_write instead Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-08 12:45   ` christoph
2006-03-08 16:26     ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-08  0:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] Zach's core aio changes to support vectored AIO Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-08  3:37   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-08 16:34     ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-08 12:47 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] VFS changes to collapse all the vectored and AIO support christoph
2006-03-08 16:24   ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-09 16:17   ` ext3_ordered_writepage() questions Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-09 23:35     ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-10  0:36       ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-16 18:09         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-03-16 18:22           ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-16 21:04             ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-03-16 21:57               ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-16 22:05                 ` Jan Kara
2006-03-16 23:45                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-17  0:44                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-03-17  0:54                     ` Andreas Dilger
2006-03-17 17:05                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2006-03-17 21:32                         ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-17 22:22                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2006-03-17 22:38                             ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-03-17 23:23                               ` Mingming Cao
2006-03-20 17:05                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2006-03-18  2:57                             ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2006-03-18  3:02                           ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2006-03-17 15:32           ` Jamie Lokier
2006-03-17 21:50             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2006-03-17 22:11               ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-03-17 22:44                 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-03-18 23:40                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-03-19  2:36                     ` Jamie Lokier
2006-03-19  5:28                       ` Chris Adams
2006-03-20  2:18                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-03-20 16:26                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2006-03-17 22:23               ` Jamie Lokier

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