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From: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
	devel@openvz.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>, Mishin Dmitry <dim@sw.ru>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: [RFC] [PATCH 0/7] Some basic vserver infrastructure
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:30:44 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1143667844.9969.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060329134709.GC15745@sergelap.austin.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 07:47 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Alas, the spacing on the picture didn't quite work out :)  I think that
> by nested containers, you mean overlapping nested containers.  In your
> example, how are you suggesting that cont1 refers to items in
> container1.1.2's shmem?  I assume, given your previous posts on openvz,
> that you want every shmem id in all namespaces "nested" under cont1 to
> be unique, and for cont1 to refer to any item in container1.1.2's
> namespace just as it would any of cont1's own shmem?
> 
> In that case I am not sure of the actual usefulness.  Someone with
> different use for containers (you? :)  will need to justify it.  For me,
> pure isolation works just fine.  Clearly it will be most useful if we
> want fine-grained administration, from parent namespaces, of the items
> in a child namespace.

The overlapping is important if you want to pretend that the
namespace-able resources are allowed to be specified per-process, when
really they are specified per-family.

In this way, a process family is merely a grouping of processes with
like namespaces, and depending on which way they overlap you get the
same behaviour as when processes only have one resource different, and
therefore remove the overhead on fork().

Sam.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-29 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060321061333.27638.63963.stgit@localhost.localdomain>
2006-03-21 18:50 ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-21 21:08   ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-21 21:32     ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-21 23:12       ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-22  5:18         ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-22  7:13         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-23  4:17           ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-24 15:36           ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-27 12:45             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-28  5:28               ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 12:07               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 13:47                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-29 21:30                   ` Sam Vilain [this message]
2006-04-19  7:50                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-19 21:42                       ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-22  6:41   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-23  4:29     ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-23  4:50       ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-24 15:38       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-24 15:37     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-24 20:28       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-24 21:01         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-24 21:13           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-24 21:40             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-24 22:30               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-25 18:37                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <20060321061333.27638.9112.stgit@localhost.localdomain>
2006-03-21 18:53   ` [RFC] [PATCH 1/7] Add process virtualisation umbrella structure (vx_info) Dave Hansen
2006-03-21 21:52     ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-22  2:02     ` Herbert Poetzl

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