From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750915AbWFEKgf (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jun 2006 06:36:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750921AbWFEKgf (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jun 2006 06:36:35 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:492 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750915AbWFEKge (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jun 2006 06:36:34 -0400 Subject: Re: merging new drivers (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans) From: Arjan van de Ven To: Alan Cox Cc: Francois Romieu , Jeff Garzik , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1149503559.30554.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060604135011.decdc7c9.akpm@osdl.org> <20060605013223.GD17361@havoc.gtf.org> <20060605065856.GA1313@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> <1149503559.30554.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:36:24 +0200 Message-Id: <1149503784.3111.48.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 11:32 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Ar Llu, 2006-06-05 am 08:58 +0200, ysgrifennodd Francois Romieu: > > Jeff Garzik : > > [...] > > > In general, I'm a bit disappointed at the time it takes new drivers to > > > reach the upstream kernel. I grant that a lot of vendor drivers are > > > unreadable, unmergable shite... but on the other side of the coin, I > > > see a lot of decent drivers get stalled simply because they aren't > > > perfect. > > > > Could you provide an informal list of a few drivers which are currently > > stalled ? > > It isn't just drivers. Xen has the same problem. Xen has many problems. This is not nearly their biggest ;)