From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [patch 16/18] x86/entry: Get rid of the sys_ni_syscall() indirection
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 17:22:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1149A39E-BEBA-46EA-94F4-4DFFC4733EF5@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cxt11ktr.ffs@fw13>
On October 22, 2026 2:34:08 PM PDT, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org> wrote:
>On Thu, Oct 22 2026 at 21:15, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 22 2026 at 16:24, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>>> On 2026-07-07 21:07:01 [+0200], Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> |[RUN] Checking out of range system calls
>>> |[FAIL] x32 syscall 1:-64 returned -9999, but it should have returned -ENOSYS
>>> |[FAIL] x32 syscalls 1:-64..-2 had 63 failure
>>> |[OK] x32 syscall 1:-1 returned MODIFIED_BY_PTRACE as expected
>>> |[FAIL] x64 syscall 1:1073741760 returned -9999, but it should have returned -ENOSYS
>>> …
>>>
>>> and so on… The test has
>>>
>>> | #define MODIFIED_BY_PTRACE -9999
>>>
>>> and the ptracer modifies the return code. However not always. Not sure
>>> if this was indeed a pointless exercise or not.
>>
>> Hrmm. That's weird. Let me have a look.
>
>So I clearly failed to decode the overloading of the -1L return value
>correctly and then failed to run the stupid test.
>
>TBH, this whole thing was a horrid and inconsistent mess.
>
>The logic in the original code was:
>
> When the entry work code returned an invalid syscall number then the
> return value in regs->ax was set to -ENOSYS, except when the
> returned syscall number was -1. Syscall number "-1" indicated that
> the syscall has to be aborted.
>
> regs->ax = -ENOSYS;
> syscall = enter_work(regs, syscall);
> if (syscall_in_range(syscall))
> regs->ax = do_syscall(syscall);
> else if (syscall != -1)
> regs->ax = -ENOSYS;
>
>So if the ptrace check in enter_work() overwrote regs->ax and the
>syscall number (either as supplied by user space or rewritten) was out
>of range and not -1 then the x86 entry code overwrote regs->ax to
>-ENOSYS again. IOW, there is no distinction between a check induced
>abort and a syscall with syscall number -1.
>
>The rework changed the return value to boolean, which is true when the
>syscall should be invoked and false when one of the checks requests to
>abort the syscall. In that case the return code does not touch the
>return value in regs->ax.
>
>If the eventually modified syscall number is out of range then the code
>relies on the fact that regs->ax was preset with -ENOSYS, i.e.:
>
> regs->ax = -ENOSYS;
> // True indicates to proceed
> if (enter_work(regs, &syscall)) {
> if (syscall_in_range(syscall))
> regs->ax = do_syscall(syscall);
> }
>
>That seems to be equivalent, but it is not when ptrace() modifies
>the return value in regs->ax and also rewrites the syscall number to an
>invalid value or leaves the user supplied invalid value intact and does
>_NOT_ abort the syscall.
>
>So the reworked code does not overwrite the tracer modified return value
>with -ENOSYS in that case and returns whatever the tracer decided to put
>into it.
>
>TBH, that makes a lot more sense than the original behavior. If the
>tracer decides to fiddle with the default return value then that's what
>the tracer intended.
>
>That makes the behavior consistent vs. other abort scenarios:
>
> ptrace()
> regs->ax = MAGIC;
> return true; // Allow syscall
>
> seccomp()
> return false; // Abort syscall
>
>So when the tracer modified the return value and seccomp aborts the
>syscall then the tracer induced value is preserved. That was the case in
>the original code as well because seccomp() indicated the abort by
>returning -1 as the modified syscall number. Similar effects when ftrace
>(BPF, kprobe) decided to overwrite the syscall number).
>
>Bringing the original behaviour back is trivial enough, but I'm not
>convinced that it makes any sense and is worth it. At least this
>confines the x32 specific insanity of treating -1 special to x32...
>
>Thanks,
>
> tglx
>---
>--- a/arch/x86/entry/syscall_32.c
>+++ b/arch/x86/entry/syscall_32.c
>@@ -77,6 +77,8 @@ static __always_inline void do_syscall_3
> if (likely(nr < IA32_NR_syscalls)) {
> nr = array_index_nospec(nr, IA32_NR_syscalls);
> regs->ax = ia32_sys_call(regs, (unsigned int)nr);
>+ } else {
>+ regs->ax = -ENOSYS;
> }
> }
>
>--- a/arch/x86/entry/syscall_64.c
>+++ b/arch/x86/entry/syscall_64.c
>@@ -64,15 +64,24 @@ static __always_inline bool do_syscall_x
> return false;
> }
>
>-static __always_inline void do_syscall_x32(struct pt_regs *regs, unsigned long nr)
>+static __always_inline bool do_syscall_x32(struct pt_regs *regs, unsigned long nr)
> {
>+ if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_X86_X32_ABI))
>+ return false;
>+
>+ /* Preserve the historic insanity of treating -1 special on x32 */
>+ if (nr == ULONG_MAX)
>+ return true;
>+
> /* Adjust the starting offset of the table */
> nr -= __X32_SYSCALL_BIT;
>
>- if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_X86_X32_ABI) && likely(nr < X32_NR_syscalls)) {
>+ if (likely(nr < X32_NR_syscalls)) {
> nr = array_index_nospec(nr, X32_NR_syscalls);
> regs->ax = x32_sys_call(regs, (unsigned int)nr);
>+ return true;
> }
>+ return false;
> }
>
> /* Returns true to return using SYSRET, or false to use IRET */
>@@ -81,8 +90,10 @@ static __always_inline void do_syscall_x
> if (likely(syscall_enter_from_user_mode_randomize_stack(regs, &nr))) {
> instrumentation_begin();
>
>- if (!do_syscall_x64(regs, nr))
>- do_syscall_x32(regs, nr);
>+ if (unlikely(!do_syscall_x64(regs, nr))) {
>+ if (!do_syscall_x32(regs, nr))
>+ regs->ax = -ENOSYS;
>+ }
>
> instrumentation_end();
> }
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
It was never limited to x32...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-23 0:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-07 19:05 [patch 00/18] entry: Consolidate and rework syscall entry handling Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:05 ` [patch 01/18] powerpc: Move stack randomization after syscall_enter_from_user_mode() Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 14:07 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-08 17:22 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 1:20 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 11:12 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 18:32 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 02/18] randomize_kstack: Provide add_random_kstack_offset_irqsoff() Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 17:24 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 2:13 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 16:23 ` Kees Cook
2026-07-09 18:34 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 03/18] entry: Provide [syscall_]enter_from_user_mode_randomize_stack() Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 17:26 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 2:34 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 3:46 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 11:15 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 20:16 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 22:46 ` [patch 03/18] " H. Peter Anvin
2026-08-29 21:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 04/18] loongarch/syscall: Use syscall_enter_from_user_mode_randomize_stack() Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 18:37 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 2:37 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 11:15 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 18:40 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 05/18] powerpc/syscall: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 18:35 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 2:38 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 11:16 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 18:41 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 06/18] riscv/syscall: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 20:57 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 2:38 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 11:16 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 18:42 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-13 7:06 ` [patch 06/18] " Guo Ren
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 07/18] s390/syscall: Use enter_from_user_mode_randomize_stack() Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 6:47 ` Sven Schnelle
2026-07-08 20:57 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 2:39 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 2:46 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 11:17 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 18:43 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 08/18] x86/syscall: Use [syscall_]enter_from_user_mode_randomize_stack() Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 20:59 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 2:44 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 11:18 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 18:45 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 09/18] entry: Remove syscall_enter_from_user_mode() Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 21:21 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-08 22:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-09 2:49 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 18:49 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 10/18] entry: Use syscall number instead of rereading it Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 21:39 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 2:55 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 11:20 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 11:22 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2026-07-09 18:50 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:44 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 11/18] seccomp, treewide: Rename and convert __secure_computing() to return boolean Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 1:43 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-08 9:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 16:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-07-08 21:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-09 16:22 ` Kees Cook
2026-07-09 19:10 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:43 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 12/18] ptrace, treewide: Rename ptrace_report_syscall_entry() to ptrace_report_syscall_permit_entry() Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 15:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-07-09 1:41 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 8:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-07-09 17:03 ` Radu Rendec
2026-07-09 19:22 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-10 10:42 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-07-10 11:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-07-12 12:43 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 13/18] entry: Make trace_syscall_enter() return type bool Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 15:52 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-07-08 20:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 23:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-09 16:26 ` David Laight
2026-07-10 11:01 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-07-10 11:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-07-10 12:32 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-07-10 12:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-07-10 15:20 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-07-11 20:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-14 8:20 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 14/18] entry: Make return type of syscall_trace_enter() bool Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-09 19:36 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-07 19:06 ` [patch 15/18] x86/entry: Make syscall functions static Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-09 1:47 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-09 19:43 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-12 12:43 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:07 ` [patch 16/18] x86/entry: Get rid of the sys_ni_syscall() indirection Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-09 2:03 ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-07-12 12:43 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-22 14:24 ` [patch 16/18] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-22 15:02 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-22 18:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-10-22 19:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-22 21:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-23 0:22 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2026-10-23 13:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-10-23 14:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:07 ` [patch 17/18] x86/entry: Simplify the syscall number logic Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-12 12:43 ` [tip: core/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-07 19:07 ` [patch 18/18] entry, treewide: Make syscall_enter_from_user_mode[_work]() indicate syscall execution Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-08 5:21 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-08 9:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-09 19:49 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-09 20:15 ` [patch 00/18] entry: Consolidate and rework syscall entry handling Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-07-11 12:29 ` Magnus Lindholm
2026-07-19 11:25 ` Magnus Lindholm
2026-07-20 19:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-20 22:01 ` Magnus Lindholm
2026-07-21 8:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-07-21 10:44 ` [PATCH] seccomp: Fix syscall skip logic on ptrace Michal Suchanek
2026-09-01 18:34 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-06 15:35 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-08-27 22:22 ` [patch 00/18] entry: Consolidate and rework syscall entry handling H. Peter Anvin
2026-08-31 8:50 ` Heiko Carstens
2026-08-31 19:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
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