From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750867AbWFLIbt (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:31:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750914AbWFLIbt (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:31:49 -0400 Received: from ns.firmix.at ([62.141.48.66]:8350 "EHLO ns.firmix.at") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750867AbWFLIbs (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:31:48 -0400 Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) From: Bernd Petrovitsch To: jdow Cc: davids@webmaster.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <00de01c68df9$7d2b2330$0225a8c0@Wednesday> References: <193701c68d16$54cac690$0225a8c0@Wednesday> <1150100286.26402.13.camel@tara.firmix.at> <00de01c68df9$7d2b2330$0225a8c0@Wednesday> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Firmix Software GmbH Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:31:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1150101102.26402.28.camel@tara.firmix.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-4.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.332 () AWL,BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 01:23 -0700, jdow wrote: [...] > And just recently we received a spate of spam that came from a domain > that disappeared almost immediately. Domain names are cheap. They can > vouch for the spam run. Then what happens to them doesn't matter. But > the SPF record passes. Of course this is one way around it (and there are certainly others). But it (may) save "my" domains from false complaints and bounced emails just because some spammer sends email "From: xxx@mydomain". Yes, SPF does not avoid spam in general (and BTW nobody on openspf.org claims that). And yes, we all want such a thing, but AFAICS there won't be such a thing (except making email - at least - as expensive as snail mail). Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664 4416156 fax: +43 1 7890849-55 Embedded Linux Development and Services