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From: "Sébastien Dugué" <sebastien.dugue@bull.net>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Atsushi Nemoto <anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pierre PEIFFER <pierre.peiffer@bull.net>
Subject: Re: NPTL mutex and the scheduling priority
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:04:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1150200272.3835.33.camel@frecb000686> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060613084819.GL3115@devserv.devel.redhat.com>

On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 04:48 -0400, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 05:24:28PM +0200, S?bastien Dugu? wrote:
> >   The patch you refer to is at
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=114725326712391&w=2
> > 
> >   But maybe a better solution for condvars would be to implement
> > something like a futex_requeue_pi() to handle the broadcast and
> > only use PI futexes all along in glibc.
> 
> FUTEX_REQUEUE certainly should be able to requeue from normal futex
> to a PI futex or vice versa, I don't think it is desirable to create
> a separate futex cmds for that.

  Indeed, that would be preferable but might get tricky.

> Now not sure what do you mean by "use PI futexes all along in glibc",
> certainly you don't mean using them for normal mutexes, right? 
> FUTEX_LOCK_PI has effects the normal futexes shouldn't have.
> The condvars can be also used with PP mutexes and using PI for the cv
> internal lock unconditionally wouldn't be the right thing either.

  I effectively meant using a PI futex for the cv __data.__futex but now
I realize it's a Really Bad Idea.

  To summarize (correct me if I'm wrong), we need a way in the broadcast
case to promote the cv __data.__futex type to the type of the external
mutex (PI, PP, normal) in the requeue path. Therefore we need the
ability to requeue waiters on a regular futex onto a PI futex.

  Ingo, Thomas, is this feasible?

  Sébastien.




  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-13 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-12  8:10 Atsushi Nemoto
2006-06-12 12:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-12 12:44   ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-12 15:24     ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-06-12 16:06       ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-09-07  8:11         ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-09-07  8:32           ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-09-07  9:30             ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-09-07  9:37               ` Andreas Schwab
2006-09-07  9:42                 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-06-13  8:39       ` Pierre Peiffer
2006-06-13  8:48       ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-13 12:04         ` Sébastien Dugué [this message]
2006-06-13 12:56           ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-14 13:19             ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-06-14 13:28               ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-14 13:38               ` Pierre Peiffer
2006-06-15  9:28               ` Pierre Peiffer

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