From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932690AbWF2Kze (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:55:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932671AbWF2Kzd (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:55:33 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:39595 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932556AbWF2Kzc (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:55:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] ia64: change usermode HZ to 250 From: Arjan van de Ven To: Jes Sorensen Cc: Alan Cox , "Luck, Tony" , John Daiker , John Hawkes , Tony Luck , Andrew Morton , linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jack Steiner , Dan Higgins , Jeremy Higdon In-Reply-To: <44A3AFFB.2000203@sgi.com> References: <617E1C2C70743745A92448908E030B2A27FC5F@scsmsx411.amr.corp.intel.com> <1151578928.23785.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44A3AFFB.2000203@sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:55:13 +0200 Message-Id: <1151578513.3122.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 12:48 +0200, Jes Sorensen wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > Ar Iau, 2006-06-29 am 05:37 -0400, ysgrifennodd Jes Sorensen: > >> You have my vote for that one. Anything else is just going to cause > >> those broken userapps to continue doing the wrong thing. We should > >> really do this on all archs though. > > > > No need, all current mainstream architectures expose a constant user HZ. > Hi, > But you are still going to have the issue where someone installs their > own kernel and apps will break because of this? to answer that question with one word: no. read what Alan said: the HZ exposed to userspace is *constant*. For example, the i386 user visible HZ is 100, even if the kernel runs at a HZ of 250 or 1000.... Just when a HZ value gets exposed to userspace, it's transformed into a HZ=100 based value. And that's not a distribution thing, that's the kernel.org kernel honoring the stable-userspace-interface contract, and common sense.. Greetings, Arjan van de Ven