From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964903AbWGHQuo (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:50:44 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964905AbWGHQun (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:50:43 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:42182 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964903AbWGHQun (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:50:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: uswsusp history lesson From: Arjan van de Ven To: Sunil Kumar Cc: Bojan Smojver , Pavel Machek , Avuton Olrich , Olivier Galibert , Jan Rychter , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, grundig , Nigel Cunningham In-Reply-To: References: <20060627133321.GB3019@elf.ucw.cz> <20060707215656.GA30353@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <20060707232523.GC1746@elf.ucw.cz> <200607080933.12372.ncunningham@linuxmail.org> <20060708002826.GD1700@elf.ucw.cz> <1152353698.2555.11.camel@coyote.rexursive.com> <1152355318.3120.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:50:34 +0200 Message-Id: <1152377434.3120.69.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 09:42 -0700, Sunil Kumar wrote: > Multiple all-half-working implementations is insane. It means > bugs don't > get fixed, it means there isn't going to be ANY implementation > that is > good enough for a broad audience. People will just switch to > another one > rather than reporting and causing even the most simple bugs to > get > > you are afraid nobody is going to use uswsusp (because it doesn't work > or is not useful) and not going to report any bugs against it, and it > will cease to exist over time. I think that is very good. Survival of > the good. The winner will be decided by users automatically. Not by > someone who note that I'm not picking sides. I don't care which ego gets to win. What do care about that Linux ends up with a good implementation, whatever that is. I have no idea is uswsusp will make it (in fact it feels fragile to me, but then again all sw suspend implementations including swsusp2 feel fragile to me). But for crying out loud PICK ONE AND MAKE IT GOOD. Bang heads together. Go for beer at OLS. I don't care how, but anything to prevent the insane thing of having multiple half working implementations.