From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964911AbWGHRWx (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:22:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964909AbWGHRWw (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:22:52 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:30668 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964911AbWGHRWw (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:22:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: uswsusp history lesson From: Alan Cox To: Olivier Galibert Cc: Arjan van de Ven , Bojan Smojver , Jan Rychter , Pavel Machek , Avuton Olrich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, grundig , Nigel Cunningham In-Reply-To: <20060708164312.GA36499@dspnet.fr.eu.org> References: <20060627133321.GB3019@elf.ucw.cz> <20060707215656.GA30353@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <20060707232523.GC1746@elf.ucw.cz> <200607080933.12372.ncunningham@linuxmail.org> <20060708002826.GD1700@elf.ucw.cz> <1152353698.2555.11.camel@coyote.rexursive.com> <1152355318.3120.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060708164312.GA36499@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:39:23 +0100 Message-Id: <1152380363.27368.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 (2.6.2-1.fc5.5) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Ar Sad, 2006-07-08 am 18:43 +0200, ysgrifennodd Olivier Galibert: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 12:41:58PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > Very often, choice is good. but for something this fundamental, it is > > not. We also don't have 2 scsi layers for example. > > We have 2 ide layers, 2 usb-storage drivers, 2 sound systems and we (We've had effectively two SCSI layers before now btw when we've done transitions from old_eh to new_eh) > have had 2 pcmcia subsystems and 2 usb subsystems. At one point, it's > the only way to find out what will work out. Suspend2 and uswsusp > have very different fundamental designs, and it's quite unclear at > that point which one is the right one. I'd like to see this cleared up at OLS/Kernel summit. Alan