From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964927AbWGHSD0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 14:03:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964932AbWGHSD0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 14:03:26 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:7813 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964927AbWGHSDZ (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 14:03:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: uswsusp history lesson From: Arjan van de Ven To: Olivier Galibert Cc: Bojan Smojver , Jan Rychter , Pavel Machek , Avuton Olrich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, grundig , Nigel Cunningham In-Reply-To: <20060708174928.GC36499@dspnet.fr.eu.org> References: <20060627133321.GB3019@elf.ucw.cz> <20060707215656.GA30353@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <20060707232523.GC1746@elf.ucw.cz> <200607080933.12372.ncunningham@linuxmail.org> <20060708002826.GD1700@elf.ucw.cz> <1152353698.2555.11.camel@coyote.rexursive.com> <1152355318.3120.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060708164312.GA36499@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1152377246.3120.65.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060708174928.GC36499@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 20:03:14 +0200 Message-Id: <1152381795.3120.79.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 19:49 +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 06:47:26PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 18:43 +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 12:41:58PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > Very often, choice is good. but for something this fundamental, it is > > > > not. We also don't have 2 scsi layers for example. > > > > > > We have 2 ide layers, 2 usb-storage drivers, 2 sound systems and we > > > have had 2 pcmcia subsystems and 2 usb subsystems. > > > > well not sure about all of them... but it sucks. > > - drivers/ide vs. Alan's libata work > - usb-storage vs. ub > - oss vs. alsa > > And for the old ones: > - pcmcia-cs vs. Linus' yenta code > - the old usb stuff vs. Linus' rewrite > > And I've forgottem v4l1 vs. v4l2 too. you're giving a nice list of "technology A obsoletes technology B". That's fine. It's also an entirely different situation.