From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751271AbWGLQ71 (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:59:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751358AbWGLQ71 (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:59:27 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:6807 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751271AbWGLQ70 (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:59:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [klibc] klibc and what's the next step? From: Arjan van de Ven To: Olaf Hering Cc: Greg KH , "H. Peter Anvin" , klibc@zytor.com, Jeff Garzik , Roman Zippel , Michael Tokarev , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org In-Reply-To: <20060712165423.GA25071@suse.de> References: <20060711112746.GA14059@suse.de> <44B3D0A0.7030409@zytor.com> <20060711164040.GA16327@suse.de> <44B3DA77.50103@garzik.org> <20060711171624.GA16554@suse.de> <44B3E7D5.8070100@zytor.com> <20060711181552.GD16869@suse.de> <44B3EC5A.1010100@zytor.com> <20060711200640.GA17653@suse.de> <20060711212232.GA32698@kroah.com> <20060712165423.GA25071@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:58:38 +0200 Message-Id: <1152723518.3217.53.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 18:54 +0200, Olaf Hering wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 10:06:40PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote: > > > And to give a negative example for great regression test opportunities: > > > You guessed it, SLES10 has a udev that cant handle kernels before 2.6.15. > > > Great job. I could slap them all day... > > > > Just to be specific, the udev in SLES10 can handle older kernels than > > 2.6.15 just fine, it's just the boot scripts around it are not written > > to do so. > > What difference does that make exactly? "It doesnt work." > - who cares? You're talking about compatibility in the wrong direction. You don't expect to be able to run a 2.2 kernel on SLES10 either. A distro expecting the kernel to be at least of the version that comes with it imo is entirely justified and even required to use new features in an integrated way without overbloating the distro with never used and undertested compatibility junk. Running a NEWER kernel.. that's where people have a point. Now, arguably some of the enterprise distros are not designed with that in mind (unlike most community distributions), but it's not entirely unreasonable to expect to be able to do this at least for a while. Greetings, Arjan van de Ven