From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161041AbWGOVTM (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Jul 2006 17:19:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161048AbWGOVTM (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Jul 2006 17:19:12 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:6579 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161041AbWGOVTM (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Jul 2006 17:19:12 -0400 Subject: Re: 2.6.18 Headers - Long From: Arjan van de Ven To: Albert Cahalan Cc: dwmw2@infradead.org, maillist@jg555.com, ralf@linux-mips.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net In-Reply-To: <787b0d920607151409q4d0dfcc1wc787d9dfe7b0a897@mail.gmail.com> References: <787b0d920607151409q4d0dfcc1wc787d9dfe7b0a897@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:19:06 +0200 Message-Id: <1152998347.3114.36.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 17:09 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > David Woodhouse writes: > > > Kernel headers are _not_ a library of random crap for userspace to use. > > The attraction is that the kernel abstractions are very nice. > Much of the POSIX API sucks ass. The kernel stuff is NOT crap. > > Here we have a full-featured set of atomic ops, which are not atomic actually in userspace (hint: most apps don't have CONFIG_SMP set)