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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>
Cc: arjan@infradead.org, maillist@jg555.com, ralf@linux-mips.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: 2.6.18 Headers - Long
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:47:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1153000020.8427.16.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <787b0d920607151409q4d0dfcc1wc787d9dfe7b0a897@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 17:09 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> David Woodhouse writes:
> > Kernel headers are _not_ a library of random crap for userspace to 
> > use.

> Don't blame app developers if they go for what is good.
> To stop them, provide the goodness in a sane way.
> (alternately, make the Linux code suck ass more than POSIX) 

Kernel headers are _not_ a library of random crap for userspace to use.

There is no justification for asm/atomic.h being installed
in /usr/include. Especially since, as Arjan points out, it doesn't
actually provide atomic operations in many cases anyway.

However, the kernel is released under a licence which allows you to
re-use code from it if you really want. If you want to provide a
'libkernelstuff', the GPL permits you to do that. The kernel's ABI
headers (and lkml) are not the appropriate place for such a project
though. If you want to do that, take it where the C++ and microkernel
people go.

Btw, your mail client omitted the References: and In-Reply-To: headers
which RFC2822 says it SHOULD have included. On a list with as much
traffic as linux-kernel, that's _very_ suboptimal, because you've
detached your message from the thread to which you replied. Please try
to fix or work around that.

-- 
dwmw2


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-15 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-15 21:09 Albert Cahalan
2006-07-15 21:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-17  5:21   ` Ralf Baechle
2006-07-15 21:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-15 21:47 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2006-07-16  6:18   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-16  6:26     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-16  8:05     ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-16  8:20 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-07-16 12:34 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-07-16 12:48   ` Russell King
2006-07-16 18:38   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-16 18:53     ` Russell King
2006-07-16 19:22       ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-16 19:41         ` Russell King
2006-07-17  1:26         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-17  1:23   ` David Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-12  0:35 Jim Gifford
2006-07-14  0:25 ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-14  2:18   ` Jim Gifford
2006-07-14 18:55     ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-14 19:28       ` Jim Gifford
2006-07-14 19:39         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-14 20:16           ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-14 20:19             ` David Miller
2006-07-14 20:57               ` Jim Gifford
2006-07-15  4:33                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-16 14:08                   ` Nix
2006-07-15  7:19                 ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-15  7:08               ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-14 19:57         ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-14 20:06         ` Erik Andersen
2006-07-14 20:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-26 16:09   ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-29 12:25     ` Ralf Baechle

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