From: Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@austin.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Valerie Henson <val_henson@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com>,
Mark Fasheh <mark.fasheh@oracle.com>,
Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>,
jsipek@cs.sunysb.edu, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Relative lazy atime
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:58:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154797123.12108.6.camel@kleikamp.austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060805122537.GA23239@lst.de>
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 14:25 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:36:22PM -0700, Valerie Henson wrote:
> > (Corrected Chris Wedgwood's name and email.)
> >
> > My friend Akkana followed my advice to use noatime on one of her
> > machines, but discovered that mutt was unusable because it always
> > thought that new messages had arrived since the last time it had
> > checked a folder (mbox format). I thought this was a bummer, so I
> > wrote a "relative lazy atime" patch which only updates the atime if
> > the old atime was less than the ctime or mtime. This is not the same
> > as the lazy atime patch of yore[1], which maintained a list of inodes
> > with dirty atimes and wrote them out on unmount.
>
> Another idea, similar to how atime updates work in xfs currently might
> be interesting: Always update atime in core, but don't start a
> transaction just for it - instead only flush it when you'd do it anyway,
> that is another transaction or evicting the inode.
Hmm. That adds a cost to evicting what the vfs considers a clean inode.
It seems wrong, but if that's what xfs does, it must not be a problem.
Shaggy
--
David Kleikamp
IBM Linux Technology Center
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-05 16:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-03 6:36 Valerie Henson
2006-08-03 14:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-08-05 12:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-05 13:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-09 14:03 ` Valerie Henson
2006-08-09 15:49 ` Erez Zadok
2006-08-10 12:27 ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-05 16:58 ` Dave Kleikamp [this message]
2006-08-05 17:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-05 18:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-08-05 22:22 ` Mark Fasheh
2006-08-05 23:06 ` David Lang
2006-08-05 23:28 ` dean gaudet
2006-08-06 0:11 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-08-06 3:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-08-09 6:39 ` Valerie Henson
2006-08-09 12:21 ` Jörn Engel
2006-08-09 12:58 ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-08-10 11:34 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2006-08-10 17:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-08-06 0:13 ` Mark Fasheh
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2006-08-10 13:07 ` Bodo Eggert
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2006-08-03 6:29 Valerie Henson
2006-08-03 6:44 ` Josef Sipek
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