From: Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>
To: paulmck@us.ibm.com
Cc: Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org, paulus@au1.ibm.com,
anton@au1.ibm.com, pradeep@us.ibm.com, mashirle@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memory ordering in __kfifo primitives
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:27:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1155241662.5198.11.camel@deep-space-9.dsnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060810164752.GG1298@us.ibm.com>
[open-iscsi@googlegroups.com bouncing, removed from CC:]
Le jeudi 10 août 2006 à 09:47 -0700, Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
> > Let's take this problem differently: is a memory barrier cheaper than a
> > spinlock ?
>
> Almost always, yes. But a spinlock is cheaper than a spinlock plus
> a pair of memory barriers.
Right, but I think we're optimizing too much here.
> > If the answer is yes as I suspect, why should the kfifo API force the
> > user to take a spinlock ?
>
> My concern is that currently a majority of the calls to __kfifo_{get,put}()
> are already holding a spinlock.
>
> But if you could send me your tests for lock-free __kfifo_{get,put}(),
> I would be happy to run them on weak-memory-consistency model machines
> with the memory barriers. And without the memory barriers -- we need
> a test that fails in the latter case to prove that the memory barriers
> really are in the right place and that all of them are present.
>
> Does this sound reasonable?
It would sound reasonable if I had any tests to send to you :)
Since I don't have any and since you're the one proposing the change, I
guess it's up to you to write them. :)
Stelian.
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Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-10 20:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-10 0:18 Paul E. McKenney
2006-08-10 0:29 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 1:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-08-10 0:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-08-10 5:48 ` Mike Christie
2006-08-10 13:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-08-10 14:26 ` Stelian Pop
2006-08-10 15:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-08-10 15:47 ` Stelian Pop
2006-08-10 16:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-08-10 16:23 ` Stelian Pop
2006-08-10 16:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-08-10 20:27 ` Stelian Pop [this message]
2006-08-10 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
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