From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932214AbWHQMPM (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:15:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932231AbWHQMPM (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:15:12 -0400 Received: from gate.crashing.org ([63.228.1.57]:51136 "EHLO gate.crashing.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932206AbWHQMPK (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:15:10 -0400 Subject: Re: PATCH: Multiprobe sanitizer From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt To: Greg KH Cc: Alan Cox , akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20060817120013.GC6843@kroah.com> References: <1155746538.24077.371.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060816222633.GA6829@kroah.com> <1155774994.15195.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1155797833.11312.160.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1155804060.15195.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1155806676.11312.175.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060817120013.GC6843@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:12:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1155816777.11312.177.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 05:00 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 11:24:35AM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Probe ordering is fragile and completely defeated with busses that are > > already probed asynchronously (like USB or firewire), and things can > > only get worse. Thus we need to look for generic solutions, the trick of > > maintaining probe ordering will work around problems today but we'll > > still hit the wall in an increasing number of cases in the future. > > That's exactly why udev was created :) > > It can handle bus ordering issues already today just fine, and distros > use it this way in shipping, "enterprise ready" products. Only up to a certain point and for certain drivers... but yeah. That's probably the right direction to take. Now, I'll let you and Alan argue wether it's sufficient or not to move toward a fully parallel probing :) Ben.