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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, len.brown@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] maximum latency tracking infrastructure
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:19:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1156493985.3032.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060824222417.GA27504@srcf.ucam.org>

On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 23:24 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 07:41:35PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 
> > +	/* the ipw2100 hardware really doesn't want power management delays
> > +	 * longer than 500usec
> > +	 */
> > +	modify_acceptable_latency("ipw2100", 500);
> > +
> 
> Hm. My BIOS claims that the C3 transition period is 85usec (and even my 
> C4 is 185) , but I've hit the error path where C3 gets disabled. Is this 
> really adequate? 

first of all that 500 is a bit of a guess on my side; James (the Intel
wireless guy) is on holiday so I couldn't get real numbers out of it.
But as proof of concept it's pretty ok :)

> Also, by the looks of it, the C3 disabling path is 
> still present - is it still theoretically necessary with the above, or 
> is this just a belt and braces approach?

the "problem" is that bioses lie about these numbers all the time as
well ;( (it's getting better but still).


Those numbers you gave, were those on batter or on AC ? (apparently for
the problem machines C3 latency goes WAY up when on battery, and then
the problem hits)

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-25  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24 17:41 Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 19:18 ` Len Brown
2006-08-24 21:08 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-08-24 21:20   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 21:29     ` Jesse Barnes
2006-08-24 21:50       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-25  4:54     ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-25  7:58       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-25  8:26         ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-25  8:30           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 21:52 ` Daniel Walker
2006-08-24 21:57   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 22:16     ` Daniel Walker
2006-08-24 22:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-08-25  8:19   ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2006-08-24 22:52 ` Matt Mackall
2006-08-25  7:56   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-25 14:54     ` Matt Mackall

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