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From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Freeze bdevs when freezing processes.
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:19:26 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1161728366.22729.28.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061024144446.GD11034@melbourne.sgi.com>

Hi David.

On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 00:44 +1000, David Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 12:36:53PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday, 23 October 2006 06:12, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > XFS can continue to submit I/O from a timer routine, even after
> > > freezeable kernel and userspace threads are frozen. This doesn't seem to
> > > be an issue for current swsusp code,
> > 
> > So it doesn't look like we need the patch _now_.
> > 
> > > but is definitely an issue for Suspend2, where the pages being written could
> > > be overwritten by Suspend2's atomic copy.
> > 
> > And IMO that's a good reason why we shouldn't use RCU pages for storing the
> > image.  XFS is one known example that breaks things if we do so and
> > there may be more such things that we don't know of.  The fact that they
> > haven't appeared in testing so far doesn't mean they don't exist and
> > moreover some things like that may appear in the future.
> 
> Could you please tell us which XFS bits are broken so we can get
> them fixed?  The XFS daemons should all be checking if they are
> supposed to freeze (i.e. they call try_to_freeze() after they wake
> up due to timer expiry) so I thought they were doing the right
> thing.

The problem (in my experience) isn't the threads but a timer that
submits I/O even when the threads are frozen. It stops when the bdev is
frozen. The last report I've seen was before I added bdev freezing to
suspend2, which was 2.6.14, so you guys may have fixed it since then.

I can seek to get a trace if you like.

Regards,

Nigel


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-24 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-23  4:12 Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 10:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 12:09   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 14:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 14:15       ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-23 14:20         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 23:05           ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 16:55       ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-23 17:14         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 17:50           ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-23 18:06             ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 19:19             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 22:52               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24  7:57                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24  8:21                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 21:39             ` Matthew Garrett
2006-10-23 22:12               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24  7:58               ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 22:58             ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24  8:01               ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 23:22       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24  8:37         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 14:44   ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 15:29     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 16:20       ` Oleg Verych
2006-10-24 17:08         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 16:33       ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 21:37         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25  0:13           ` David Chinner
2006-10-25  8:10             ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25  8:38               ` David Chinner
2006-10-25  8:47                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 12:32                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-25 13:23                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25 19:05                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-26  7:30                         ` David Chinner
2006-10-26  8:18                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26  8:48                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-26  8:57                             ` David Chinner
2006-10-26  9:11                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-27  1:38                                 ` David Chinner
2006-10-27 14:37                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-29 17:35                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-29 23:29                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-29 23:46                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26  9:18                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26  9:08                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-25  8:12             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 17:06       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 19:09         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 21:26         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 21:33           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 21:43             ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 22:19     ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2006-10-24 20:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 22:17   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 20:38 ` Christoph Hellwig

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