From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965158AbWLTVti (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:49:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964880AbWLTVth (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:49:37 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:42008 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965158AbWLTVtg (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:49:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down From: Arjan van de Ven To: Benny Amorsen Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <200612191959.43019.david-b@pacbell.net> <20061220042648.GA19814@srcf.ucam.org> <200612192114.49920.david-b@pacbell.net> <20061220053417.GA29877@suse.de> <20061220055209.GA20483@srcf.ucam.org> <1166601025.3365.1345.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20061220125314.GA24188@srcf.ucam.org> <1166621931.3365.1384.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20061220152701.GA22928@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1166628858.3365.1425.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20061220164054.GA27938@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1166635300.3365.1442.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Intel International BV Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:49:33 +0100 Message-Id: <1166651374.3365.1449.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 (2.8.2.1-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 21:40 +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: > >>>>> "AvdV" == Arjan van de Ven writes: > > AvdV> even if you have NO power savings you still don't meet your > AvdV> criteria. That's basic ethernet for you.... > > AvdV> That's what I was trying to say; your criteria is unrealistic > AvdV> regardless of what the kernel does, ethernet already dictates 30 > AvdV> to 45 seconds there. > > Can you get to such high numbers without STP? you can get the 30 seconds yes. Usually not with home equipment though, but with longer cables and expensive switches.. it does happen. -- if you want to mail me at work (you don't), use arjan (at) linux.intel.com Test the interaction between Linux and your BIOS via http://www.linuxfirmwarekit.org