From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422995AbXCGSrt (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:47:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422993AbXCGSrt (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:47:49 -0500 Received: from www.osadl.org ([213.239.205.134]:50716 "EHLO mail.tglx.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422995AbXCGSrr (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:47:47 -0500 Subject: Re: + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree From: Thomas Gleixner Reply-To: tglx@linutronix.de To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge Cc: Ingo Molnar , Dan Hecht , Zachary Amsden , akpm@linux-foundation.org, ak@suse.de, Virtualization Mailing List , Rusty Russell , LKML , john stultz In-Reply-To: <45EF044C.2080307@goop.org> References: <45EDD82F.90204@vmware.com> <1173225182.24738.507.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45EE0628.1080108@goop.org> <45EE08E8.2020008@vmware.com> <1173228544.24738.514.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45EE0D10.7070807@vmware.com> <1173230305.24738.529.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45EE1EA3.90803@vmware.com> <1173256666.24738.576.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45EEF966.6060902@goop.org> <20070307175232.GB31371@elte.hu> <45EF044C.2080307@goop.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:53:55 +0100 Message-Id: <1173293636.24738.670.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 10:28 -0800, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > Ingo Molnar wrote: > > /For you/ it's certainly no big deal, you dont have to fix it up and you > > dont have to keep it flexible ;) > > > > How flexible does it need to be? Its a simple time source and event > driver. How flexible does the pit driver need to be? It's just a small > leaf node hanging off a large existing piece of kernel infrastructure. > > > and really, i'm not expecting miracles, i've never seen any hardware > > vendor argue /against/ support for their own hardware =B-) > > > > And since when has it been kernel policy to argue against including a > well written, self-contained, vendor-provided driver for a piece of > hardware? The difference is that we have not much influence on the design decisions of silicon vendors. We usually see them when the shit already has been morphed into solid silicon. Software emulated silicon _IS_ actually under our control. And we want to have it as sane as possible. tglx