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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	reiserfs-list@namesys.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] reiserfs vs BKL
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:23:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1177172611.7316.22.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462A3871.3060104@suse.com>

On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 12:14 -0400, Jeff Mahoney wrote:
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> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Replace all the lock_kernel() instances with reiserfs_write_lock(sb),
> > and make that use an actual per super-block mutex instead of
> > lock_kernel().
> > 
> > This should make reiserfs safe from PREEMPT_BKL=n, since it seems to
> > rely on being able to schedule. Also, it removes the dependency on the
> > BKL, and thereby is not prone to cause prio inversion with remaining BKL
> > users (notably tty).
> > 
> > Compile tested only, since I didn't dare boot it.
> 
> NACK.

darn, I suspected it would be wrong :-/, it was too easy to be right.

> Believe me, I would *love* to nuke the BKL from reiserfs, but a search
> and replace of this nature is just wrong. reiserfs_write_lock() using
> the BKL isn't an accident - it depends on its nesting properties. If you
> did try to boot this kernel, you'd deadlock pretty quickly.

Right, I see. 

> This one has been on my TODO list for a long time. Interestingly, I've
> been doing reiserfs xattr development recently using 2.6.21-rc7-git2,
> and I'm not seeing any of these messages.

Yeah, that would be pretty close to what I ran.

> # CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y
> # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
> # CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL is not set

I have CONFIG_PREEMPT=y, but seeing how one of those points came from a
cond_resched() within a lock_kernel() section, I'm not seeing how you
don't get these.

A well, I really do hope you come up with something some day, for me its
time to go change filesystems - bah, the pain...


      reply	other threads:[~2007-04-21 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-21 15:46 Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 16:14 ` Jeff Mahoney
2007-04-21 16:23   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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