From: Josh Triplett <josht@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@freedesktop.org>,
linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] bloody mess with __attribute__() syntax
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:50:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1183661456.2604.43.camel@josh-work.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070705164334.GM21478@ftp.linux.org.uk>
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 17:43 +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 08:36:35AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Wow. Insane. So these all declare the same type:
> > __attribute__((foo)) T *v;
> > T __attribute__((foo)) *v;
> > T *__attribute__((foo)) v;
> > ? Specifically, they point to a foo-T, for convenient shooting?
>
> They all give you foo-pointer-to-T.
> T (__attribute__((foo)) *v);
> would give pointer-to-foo-T.
Doesn't that do exactly what we want, then? If we say
T __attribute__((noderef)) *v;
, we want a noderef-pointer-to-T, not a pointer-to-noderef-T. noderef
should modify a pointer.
> > context also represents a qualifier; the position of the qualifier should
> > determine things like whether you want to enforce the context when you access
> > a pointer or dereference a pointer.
>
> Since __context__ is (sparse-only) keyword, we are not constrained by
> anything anyway.
No, I mean __attribute__((context(...))), which means something
different. __context__() works as a statement statement changing the
context. __attribute__((context(...))) works as an attribute modifying
a type to say that it requires a given context, and that
accessing/calling it changes the context. Somewhat of an odd
distinction, but sparse currently works that way.
> > > Frankly, I would rather add a new primitive (__qualifier__) mirroring the
> > > __attribute__, but acting like real qualifiers do. And switched the
> > > noderef et.al. to it.
> >
> > Something like that sounds vaguely reasonable. It should allow the same set
> > of attributes, and just change what they apply to. To use your example,
> > T __qualifier__((foo)) *v;
> > and
> > T (__attribute__((foo)) *v);
> > would mean the same thing.
>
> Yup, except that it would not accept storage-class-like attributes (e.g.
> always_inline).
So, to clarify what you mean by storage-class-like: __qualifier__ would
accept all attributes that modify a *type* rather than a *declaration*.
> And yes, __qualifier__((context(...))) probably might
> be a replacement for __context__, to reduce the number of primitives.
No, see above. __context__ works as a statement, not as a way to modify
a type.
That said, "calling this function requires this context or changes the
context" and "accessing this variable requires this context or changes
the context" may represent different types of attributes. I don't know.
- Josh Triplett
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-05 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-05 9:35 Al Viro
2007-07-05 12:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <OFC2AA6078.1DF7BE7E-ON4225730F.0044BE34-4225730F.0046B6F1@de.ibm.com>
2007-07-05 16:27 ` Al Viro
2007-07-05 15:36 ` Josh Triplett
2007-07-05 16:43 ` Al Viro
2007-07-05 18:50 ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2007-07-05 19:13 ` Al Viro
2007-07-05 19:35 ` Josh Triplett
2007-07-05 20:08 ` Al Viro
2007-07-05 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-06 3:26 ` Al Viro
2007-07-05 21:09 ` Josh Triplett
2007-07-05 16:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-05 16:53 ` Al Viro
2007-07-05 17:02 ` Chris Lattner
2007-07-05 17:09 ` Al Viro
2007-07-05 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-05 18:07 ` Al Viro
2007-07-05 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
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