From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759560AbXGMMc6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:32:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756411AbXGMMcu (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:32:50 -0400 Received: from az33egw01.freescale.net ([192.88.158.102]:36236 "EHLO az33egw01.freescale.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755765AbXGMMct (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer From: Li Yang Reply-To: leoli@freescale.com To: Rob Landley Cc: Gerrit Huizenga , "H. Peter Anvin" , "Kunai, Takashi" , holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lf_kernel_messages@linux-foundation.org, mtk-manpages@gmx.net, jack@suse.cz, randy.dunlap@oracle.com, gregkh@suse.de, pavel@ucw.cz, tim.bird@am.sony.com, arjan@infradead.org, sam@ravnborg.org, jengelh@computergmbh.de, joe@perches.com, auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com, hansendc@us.ibm.com, davem@davemloft.net, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, kenistoj@us.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200707121205.20959.rob@landley.net> References: <989B956029373F45A0B8AF0297081890F05F2F@zch01exm26.fsl.freescale.net> <200707121205.20959.rob@landley.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Freescale Semiconductor Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:43:03 +0800 Message-Id: <1184330583.23373.65.camel@Gundam> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2007 12:32:37.0939 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5A46830:01C7C549] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: > Proposed patch adding Li Yang to MAINTAINERS, and Documentation > describing what a language maintainer is. > > Signed-off-by: Rob Landley Signed-off-by: Li Yang > > -- > > On Thursday 12 July 2007 9:53:54 am Li Yang-r58472 wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to establish. > > > > > > A list works fine as a point of contact. I note that in general, > > maintainers > > > are individuals (who delegate like mad, of course), because otherwise > > agenda > > > items languish with everyone thinking it's someone else's > > responsibility. > > > > Got it. I can do it as long as it doesn't consume too much time. :) > > Woot! See attached patch and sign-off-by if you want the job. :) > > The bit about "the maintainer forwards, not the list" is a suggestion to > prevent duplicates. It doesn't mean you can't delegate, just that if it's > open season on the list translating stuff _and_ forwarding it, then > linux-kernel will get dupes. (Plus other maintainers are more likely > to pay attention to somebody they've heard from before.) > > Greg KH had entire an OLS presentation about how the developer -> > maintainer -> subsystem -> anderew+linus forwarding is more > an ideal than a reality, but at least it gives us a frame of reference > to diverge from: > http://lwn.net/Articles/240402/ > > diff -r edfd2d6f670d MAINTAINERS > --- a/MAINTAINERS Tue Jul 10 17:51:13 2007 -0700 > +++ b/MAINTAINERS Thu Jul 12 11:51:19 2007 -0400 > @@ -2146,6 +2146,13 @@ W: http://auxdisplay.googlepages.com/ > W: http://auxdisplay.googlepages.com/ > S: Maintained > > +LANGUAGE (CHINESE) > +P: Li Yang > +M: LeoLi@freescale.com > +L: linux-kernel@zh-kernel.org > +W: http://zh-kernel.org > +S: Maintained > + > LAPB module > L: linux-x25@vger.kernel.org > S: Orphan > --- /dev/null 2007-04-23 11:59:00.000000000 -0400 > +++ linux-2.6/Documentation/language-maintainers.txt 2007-07-12 11:49:20.000000000 -0400 > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ > +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. > +(Note that Linus Torvalds' native language is Swedish, yet he chose > +to hold technical discussions in English.) > + > +The job of a language maintainer is to provide a point of contact for > +non-english speaking developers who wish to merge their patches into the > +Linux kernel. Each language needs a specific language maintainer, who > +accepts non-english patch submissions on behalf of the Linux kernel. > + > +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written in C, from > +authors who do not also speak English. The language maintainer translates the > +description of each patch into English, forwards the patches to linux-kernel > +and to the appropriate maintainers for inclusion in the Linux kernel, and > +translates questions and replies about such patches as part of the > +patch review process. In addiction to this responsibility, I would like to add two more which, in my opinion, are more important. And these are what I'm trying to do. :) First, promoting contribution to Linux kernel in local language. Second, coordinate the translation effort of key kernel documents. > + > +Some language maintainers provide a mailing list as a point of contact, to > +distribute the translation work, but the maintainer is still the person who > +ultimately forwards the results (to prevent duplicates), and the one to contact > +if patches and questions don't get translated and forwarded in a timely fashion. >