From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Wake up mandatory locks waiter on chmod (v2)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:54:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1190134496.6656.22.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070918165220.GE18476@fieldses.org>
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 12:52 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:14:55PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > Note also that strictly speaking, we're not even compliant with the
> > System V behaviour on read() and write(). See:
> >
> > http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/nfs/ch11_01.htm
> > and
> > http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/801-6736/6i13fom0a?l=en&a=view&q=mandatory+lock
> >
> > According to these docs, we should be wrapping each and every read() and
> > write() syscall with a mandatory lock. The fact that we're not, and yet
> > still not seeing any complaints just goes to show how few people are
> > actually using and relying on this...
>
> So currently there's nothing to prevent this:
>
> - write passes locks_mandatory_area() checks
> - get mandatory lock
> - read old data
> - write updates file data
> - read new data
>
> You can see the data change even while you hold a mandatory lock that
> should exclude writes.
>
> Similarly you might think that an application could prevent anyone from
> seeing the intermediate state of a file while it performs a series of
> writes under an exclusive mandatory lock, but actually there's nothing
> to stop a read in progress from racing with acquisition of the lock.
>
> Unless I'm missing something, that makes our mandatory lock
> implementation pretty pointless. I wish we could either fix it or just
> ditch it, but I suppose either option would be unpopular.
It gets even better when you throw mmap() into the mix :-)
Trond
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-18 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-17 8:13 Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-17 13:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-17 14:16 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-17 16:00 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 6:33 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-18 15:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 16:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 16:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 16:54 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2007-09-18 17:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 18:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-25 16:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: move mandatory locking documentation to filesystems/ J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-25 16:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] locks: add warning about mandatory locking races J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-25 17:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: move mandatory locking documentation to filesystems/ Randy Dunlap
2007-09-25 17:24 ` J. Bruce Fields
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