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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Chakri n <chakriin5@gmail.com>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	nfs@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:52:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1191009148.6702.46.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070928122628.965137f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 12:26 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:16:11 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> > Looking back, they were getting caught up in
> > balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() and friends. See the attached
> > example...
> 
> that one is nfs-on-loopback, which is a special case, isn't it?

I'm not sure that the hang that is illustrated here is so special. It is
an example of a bog-standard ext3 write, that ends up calling the NFS
client, which is hanging. The fact that it happens to be hanging on the
nfsd process is more or less irrelevant here: the same thing could
happen to any other process in the case where we have an NFS server that
is down.

> NFS on loopback used to hang, but then we fixed it.  It looks like we
> broke it again sometime in the intervening four years or so.

It has been quirky all through the 2.6.x series because of this issue.

Cheers
  Trond


  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-28 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-28  6:32 Chakri n
2007-09-28  6:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28  6:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  8:27     ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  8:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  9:01         ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  9:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  9:20             ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  9:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 10:36                 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 13:28   ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-09-28 13:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 16:45       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-09-29  1:27       ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-28 18:04     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 17:00   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 18:49     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 18:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 19:16         ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-02 13:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-02 15:42             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-03  9:28               ` [PATCH] lockstat: documentation Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-03  9:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-28 19:16       ` A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 19:26         ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 19:52           ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2007-09-28 20:10             ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 20:32               ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 20:43                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 21:36                   ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 23:33                     ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 20:24             ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-29  1:51         ` KDB? Daniel Phillips
2007-09-29  0:46   ` A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Daniel Phillips
     [not found] ` <20070929110454.GA29861@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-29 11:04   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-29 11:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20070929122842.GA5454@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-29 12:28         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-29 14:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-01 15:57     ` Chuck Ebbert
     [not found]       ` <20071002020040.GA5275@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02  2:00         ` [PATCH] writeback: avoid possible balance_dirty_pages() lockup on a light-load bdi Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02  2:14           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <20071002121327.GA5718@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 12:13               ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]               ` <20071002132702.GA10967@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 13:27                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02 18:35                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-03 12:46         ` richard kennedy
     [not found]           ` <20071004015053.GA5789@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-04  1:50             ` Fengguang Wu

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