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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: James Hilliard <james.hilliard1@gmail.com>
Cc: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Michael Chan <michael.chan@broadcom.com>,
	Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 0/4] net: phy: restore driver state after userspace MII resets
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 14:33:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11acd5b1-3099-4e3f-9fdf-a3c5c6f098c4@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261113-submit-phy-mii-reset-v1-v1-0-02a55f352a91@gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2026 at 01:48:39AM -0700, James Hilliard wrote:
> An MII ioctl reset needs to restore the PHY driver's configuration and
> software state before the PHY worker can access the device again.

The MII ioctl is a footgun. If you use it for writing registers, don't
be surprised if bad things happen. Even reading registers can cause
bad side effects, like missed interrupts.

The whole design is broken, there is no fixing it, so we don't try to
fix it.

Sorry, but NACK.

       Andrew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-11-13 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-13  8:48 James Hilliard
2026-11-13  8:48 ` [PATCH net 1/4] net: b44: keep phylib ioctls outside the spinlock James Hilliard
2026-11-13  8:48 ` [PATCH net 2/4] net: phy: propagate MII register write errors James Hilliard
2026-11-13  8:48 ` [PATCH net 3/4] net: phy: quiesce the state machine during MII resets James Hilliard
2026-11-13  8:48 ` [PATCH net 4/4] net: phylink: reinitialize the PHY after an MII reset James Hilliard
2026-11-13  8:53 ` [PATCH net 0/4] net: phy: restore driver state after userspace MII resets netdev-bot+sinfo
2026-11-13  9:28   ` James Hilliard
2026-11-13 13:33 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2026-11-13 16:39   ` James Hilliard
2026-11-13 17:50     ` Andrew Lunn

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