From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>
Cc: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de, David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] driver-core : convert semaphore to mutex in struct class
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:18:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1200626323.5640.21.camel@lov.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8e1da0801171828n26b37be0oa8b1c3cbec5f83cb@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 10:28 +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2008 9:55 AM, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2008 2:42 AM, Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Jan 18, 2008 7:26 AM, Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:31:55PM +0100, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:57:36PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:16:30AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Dave Young wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Your meaning isn't clear. Do you mean that your patch doesn't generate
> > > > > > > > > > any lockdep warnings at all? Or do you mean that it generates a single
> > > > > > > > > > lockdep warning at boot time and then no more warnings afterward?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I means the latter one.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's very bad.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For each type of violation, lockdep only gives one error message. So
> > > > > > > > the fact that you get one message at boot time and then no more doesn't
> > > > > > > > mean the code is almost right -- it probably means the code has lots of
> > > > > > > > errors and you're seeing only the first one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope it's better than this: lockdep really stops checking after first
> > > > > > > warning, but I've understood from David's description that after fixing
> > > > > > > this one place lockdep seems to be pleased.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That isn't what Dave said above; he said that lockdep produces a single
> > > > > > warning at bootup. If he did mention anything about one place being
> > > > > > fixed up or lockdep being pleased, it was a while back and I've lost
> > > > > > track of it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I recall correctly the nature of the warning was that a method
> > > > > > routine for one class (called with the class's mutex held) was creating
> > > > > > a second class and locking that class's mutex. In principle this is
> > > > > > perfectly legal and should be allowed for arbitrary depths of nesting,
> > > > > > even though it is the sort of thing lockdep is currently unable to
> > > > > > handle.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are definitely right! After first reading Dave's description I got
> > > > > it the same way, but after re-reading I probably was misled with this
> > > > > "thus"! Only now I've had a look at this warning and there is really
> > > > > mutex_lock_nested(). Sorry Alan!
> > > >
> > > > But, on the other hand, mutex_lock() is really mutex_lock_nested(), and
> > > > after second checking this lockdep warning from Jan. 3, it seems
> > > > impossible it was get after this patch...
> > > >
> > > > Dave, could you please answer with full sentence if there is any lockdep
> > > > warning possible after applying these 1-7/7 patches, and if so, attach
> > > > current warning? Otherwise, I'll have apologized for this everybody from
> > > > the list soon!
> > >
> > > After digging the class usage code again, I found that the only
> > > possible double lock place is the class_interface_register/unregister
> > > in which the class_device api could be called.
> > >
> > > The scsi and pcmcia use the class_interface api, I just found the
> > > warning above caused by scsi part then.
> > >
> > > So I think I will need to use mutex_lock_nesting for the
> > > class_device_* functions.
> >
> > All "struct class_device" stuff will go away very soon, and only
> > "struct device" will stay.
> > The conversion for remaining users is already in -mm. Only SCSI and IB
> > are missing,
> > but experimental patches for these exist already.
> Then what's your opinon about the lockdep warning fix? I wonder
> whether the "soon" means we should do mutex convert after the
> class_device going away?
Yeah, might be better to wait until class_device is gone, otherwise you
may need to fix stuff that is just going to be removed. Your change to
have iterators for the class devices look like a nice preparation for
future changes though.
Our rough plan is:
2.6.25:
- get the ~100 patches in Greg's tree (in -mm) merged :)
2.6.26:
- remove the 20 char limit in "struct device"
- get rid of "struct class_device"
2.6.27
- merge most of "struct class" and "struct bus_type" and have
only one type of list and iterator for all devices of all subsystems
2.6.27+
- allow multiple "drivers" to bind a single device (now that the
difference between class and bus devices is gone)
Thanks,
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-18 3:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-12 10:05 Dave Young
2008-01-15 9:15 ` Dave Young
2008-01-15 13:56 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-16 1:03 ` Dave Young
2008-01-16 8:34 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-17 1:17 ` Dave Young
2008-01-17 8:38 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-17 8:56 ` Dave Young
2008-01-16 15:27 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-17 0:01 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-17 1:18 ` Dave Young
2008-01-17 15:16 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-17 19:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-17 19:57 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-17 20:31 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-17 22:02 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-17 23:26 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-18 1:42 ` Dave Young
2008-01-18 1:55 ` Kay Sievers
2008-01-18 2:28 ` Dave Young
2008-01-18 3:18 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2008-01-18 6:25 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <a8e1da0801172131h57097622h6d111133b6a0773d@mail.gmail.com>
2008-01-18 7:38 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-18 7:48 ` Dave Young
2008-01-18 8:23 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-18 9:07 ` Dave Young
2008-01-19 9:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-21 1:19 ` Dave Young
2008-01-21 1:30 ` Dave Young
2008-01-21 1:43 ` Dave Young
2008-01-21 8:36 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-21 8:44 ` Dave Young
2008-01-21 9:03 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-21 21:16 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-22 0:55 ` Dave Young
2008-01-22 5:15 ` Greg KH
2008-01-22 6:13 ` Dave Young
2008-01-22 7:45 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-18 10:45 ` Kay Sievers
2008-01-18 11:40 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-18 8:00 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-18 8:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-17 21:11 ` Greg KH
2008-01-17 21:55 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-18 1:45 ` Dave Young
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