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From: Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: posix-cpu-timers revamp
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:34:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206380079.21896.20.camel@bobble.smo.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080322215829.D69D026F9A7@magilla.localdomain>

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 14:58 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
> > I would really like to just ignore the 2-cpu scenario and just have two
> > versions, the UP version and the n-way SMP version.  It would make life,
> > and maintenance, simpler.
> Like I've said, it's only something to investigate for best performance.
> If the conditional code is encapsulated well, it will be simple to add
> another variant later and experiment with it.

Well, if it's acceptable, for a first cut (and the patch I'll submit),
I'll handle the UP and SMP cases, encapsulating them in sched.h in such
a way as to make it invisible (as much as is possible) to the rest of
the code.

> There are several important scenarios you did not test.
> Analysis of combinations of all these variables is needed.
> 1. Tests with a few threads, like as many threads as CPUs or only 2x as many.

I've actually done this, although I didn't find the numbers particularly
interesting.  I'll do it again and keep the numbers, though.

> 2. Tests with a process CPU timer set for a long expiration time.
>    i.e. a timer set, but that never goes off in your entire run.
>    (This is what a non-infinity RLIMIT_CPU limit does.)
>    With the old code, a long enough timer and a small enough number
>    of threads will never trigger a "rebalance".

I'll do this at some point.

> > I guess I could be wrong about this, but it appears to be what the code
> > is doing.  If my analysis is correct, I really don't need a new field,
> > since the old fields work just fine.
> 
> The analysis above is correct but your conclusion here is wrong.
> The current value of an itimer is a user feature, not just a piece
> of internal bookkeeping.

After looking at the code again, I now understand what you're talking
about.  You overloaded it_*_expires to support both the POSIX interval
timers and RLIMIT_CPU.  So the way I have things, setting one can stomp
the other.

> Your code causes any timer_settime or timer_delete call on a process
> CPU timer or any setrlimit call on RLIMIT_CPU to suddenly change the
> itimer setting just as if the user had made some setitimer call that
> was never made or intended.  That's wrong.

Right, because the original effect was to only set the it_*_expires on
each individual task struct, leaving the one in the signal struct alone.

Might it be cleaner to handle the RLIMIT_CPU stuff separately, rather
than rolling it into the itimer handling?
-- 
Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
Google, Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-9906-10286@http.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2008-02-07  0:50 ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 9906] New: Weird hang with NPTL and SIGPROF Andrew Morton
2008-02-07  0:58   ` Frank Mayhar
2008-02-07  2:57     ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-07 15:22       ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-02-07 15:53         ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-07 15:56           ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-07 15:54             ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-02-07 16:01               ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-07 16:53                 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-29 19:55                   ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-04  7:00                     ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-04 19:52                       ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-05  4:08                         ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-06 19:04                           ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-11  7:50                             ` posix-cpu-timers revamp Roland McGrath
2008-03-11 21:05                               ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-11 21:35                                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-14  0:37                                   ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-21  7:18                                     ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-21 17:57                                       ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-22 21:58                                         ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-24 17:34                                           ` Frank Mayhar [this message]
2008-03-24 22:43                                             ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-31  5:44                                             ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-31 20:24                                               ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02  2:07                                                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-02 16:34                                                   ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 17:42                                                   ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 19:48                                                     ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-02 20:34                                                       ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 21:42                                                         ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-04  0:53                                                           ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-04 23:17                                                         ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-06  5:26                                                           ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-07 20:08                                                             ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-07 21:31                                                               ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-07 22:02                                                                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-08 21:27                                                               ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-08 21:52                                                                 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-08 22:49                                                                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-09 16:29                                                                   ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 18:42                                                   ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-28  0:52                                           ` [PATCH 2.6.25-rc6] Fix itimer/many thread hang Frank Mayhar
2008-03-28 10:28                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-28 22:46                                             ` [PATCH 2.6.25-rc7 resubmit] " Frank Mayhar
2008-04-01 18:45                                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-01 21:46                                                 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-21 20:40                                       ` posix-cpu-timers revamp Frank Mayhar
2008-03-07 23:26                           ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 9906] New: Weird hang with NPTL and SIGPROF Frank Mayhar
2008-03-08  0:01                             ` Frank Mayhar
2008-02-07 17:36           ` Frank Mayhar

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