From: Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: posix-cpu-timers revamp
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:34:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206380079.21896.20.camel@bobble.smo.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080322215829.D69D026F9A7@magilla.localdomain>
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 14:58 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
> > I would really like to just ignore the 2-cpu scenario and just have two
> > versions, the UP version and the n-way SMP version. It would make life,
> > and maintenance, simpler.
> Like I've said, it's only something to investigate for best performance.
> If the conditional code is encapsulated well, it will be simple to add
> another variant later and experiment with it.
Well, if it's acceptable, for a first cut (and the patch I'll submit),
I'll handle the UP and SMP cases, encapsulating them in sched.h in such
a way as to make it invisible (as much as is possible) to the rest of
the code.
> There are several important scenarios you did not test.
> Analysis of combinations of all these variables is needed.
> 1. Tests with a few threads, like as many threads as CPUs or only 2x as many.
I've actually done this, although I didn't find the numbers particularly
interesting. I'll do it again and keep the numbers, though.
> 2. Tests with a process CPU timer set for a long expiration time.
> i.e. a timer set, but that never goes off in your entire run.
> (This is what a non-infinity RLIMIT_CPU limit does.)
> With the old code, a long enough timer and a small enough number
> of threads will never trigger a "rebalance".
I'll do this at some point.
> > I guess I could be wrong about this, but it appears to be what the code
> > is doing. If my analysis is correct, I really don't need a new field,
> > since the old fields work just fine.
>
> The analysis above is correct but your conclusion here is wrong.
> The current value of an itimer is a user feature, not just a piece
> of internal bookkeeping.
After looking at the code again, I now understand what you're talking
about. You overloaded it_*_expires to support both the POSIX interval
timers and RLIMIT_CPU. So the way I have things, setting one can stomp
the other.
> Your code causes any timer_settime or timer_delete call on a process
> CPU timer or any setrlimit call on RLIMIT_CPU to suddenly change the
> itimer setting just as if the user had made some setitimer call that
> was never made or intended. That's wrong.
Right, because the original effect was to only set the it_*_expires on
each individual task struct, leaving the one in the signal struct alone.
Might it be cleaner to handle the RLIMIT_CPU stuff separately, rather
than rolling it into the itimer handling?
--
Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
Google, Inc.
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <bug-9906-10286@http.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2008-02-07 0:50 ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 9906] New: Weird hang with NPTL and SIGPROF Andrew Morton
2008-02-07 0:58 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-02-07 2:57 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-07 15:22 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-02-07 15:53 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-07 15:56 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-07 15:54 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-02-07 16:01 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-07 16:53 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-02-29 19:55 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-04 7:00 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-04 19:52 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-05 4:08 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-06 19:04 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-11 7:50 ` posix-cpu-timers revamp Roland McGrath
2008-03-11 21:05 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-11 21:35 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-14 0:37 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-21 7:18 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-21 17:57 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-22 21:58 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-24 17:34 ` Frank Mayhar [this message]
2008-03-24 22:43 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-31 5:44 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-31 20:24 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 2:07 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-02 16:34 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 17:42 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 19:48 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-02 20:34 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 21:42 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-04 0:53 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-04 23:17 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-06 5:26 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-07 20:08 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-07 21:31 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-07 22:02 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-08 21:27 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-08 21:52 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-08 22:49 ` Roland McGrath
2008-04-09 16:29 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-04-02 18:42 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-28 0:52 ` [PATCH 2.6.25-rc6] Fix itimer/many thread hang Frank Mayhar
2008-03-28 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-28 22:46 ` [PATCH 2.6.25-rc7 resubmit] " Frank Mayhar
2008-04-01 18:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-01 21:46 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-03-21 20:40 ` posix-cpu-timers revamp Frank Mayhar
2008-03-07 23:26 ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 9906] New: Weird hang with NPTL and SIGPROF Frank Mayhar
2008-03-08 0:01 ` Frank Mayhar
2008-02-07 17:36 ` Frank Mayhar
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